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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    Question 1) There is no restriction to drive on the left except where there are lines and markings commanding it or the RTA says you must, One can drive on the right, I often do. So where did you get that idea from?
    a) Basic common sense.
    b) Section 17 (1) of SI294/1964



    2) Question 2 , what d you mean by a safe speed. Do you mean a safe minimum speed or a safe maximum speed? Who decides whar safe means?
    Section 18 of SI294/1964



    3) Agreed on No 3.
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    What you are saying here is that I should adjust my speed to the speed all other drivers. If (as you say above), I should drive at a safe speed, then how can I decide to do so if I must select my speed be reference to others.
    If you are driving at a different speed to other road users you are increasing the risk.

    Is the problem the speed you are driving at, or is the problem the speed they are driving at (they are unaware of some risk factor that you are basing your assessment on). What actions need to be taken to reduce the risk?



    How do you claim overtaking is the risky activity, you appear to be suggesting there shoudl ne no overtaking. Should Ross remove the section in the Act allowing overtaking.?
    Overtaking and "went to wrong side of the road" are two very significant causal factors in the crash stats. They increase risk, so they should be avoided where possible, or made safer (by moving to the left to enable faster traffic to overtake safely).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    a) Basic common sense.
    b) Section 17 (1) of SI294/1964





    Section 18 of SI294/1964





    Whew!





    If you are driving at a different speed to other road users you are increasing the risk.

    Is the problem the speed you are driving at, or is the problem the speed they are driving at (they are unaware of some risk factor that you are basing your assessment on). What actions need to be taken to reduce the risk?





    Overtaking and "went to wrong side of the road" are two very significant causal factors in the crash stats. They increase risk, so they should be avoided where possible, or made safer (by moving to the left to enable faster traffic to overtake safely).
    Here is the subsection:

    17.—(1) A driver shall drive as near to the left hand side of the roadway as is necessary in order to allow, without danger or inconvenience to traffic or a pedestrian, approaching traffic to pass him on his right and overtaking traffic to overtake him on his right. end of quote.

    If there is no approaching traffic and no overtaking traffic, he can drive on the right all he wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonica View Post
    I think I could say without exaggeration I have never seen a car do 30kph over that ramp. Obviously its not impossible but it completely crazy. The 50kph section before this nuts too. This is a one way system with no junctions or pedestrians.
    Is that the circular ramp that forms part of the on ramp to the M50?. The red cow has a similar loop.

    So, it is a tight radius, so good luck using a radar trap there, or even parking a cop with a hairdryer there from a health and safety basis.

    But, in bad weather, 30 is not nuts, especially if there is traffic.

    Accept that our speed limits are often arbitrary and too low or often too high. My tolerance for speed drops as I age. But my cars keep getting nicer and more stable at speed. Herself's car wants to do 150 on motorways. Which requires restraint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gin Soaked View Post
    Is that the circular ramp that forms part of the on ramp to the M50?. The red cow has a similar loop.

    So, it is a tight radius, so good luck using a radar trap there, or even parking a cop with a hairdryer there from a health and safety basis.

    But, in bad weather, 30 is not nuts, especially if there is traffic.

    Accept that our speed limits are often arbitrary and too low or often too high. My tolerance for speed drops as I age. But my cars keep getting nicer and more stable at speed. Herself's car wants to do 150 on motorways. Which requires restraint.
    Mrs O came across a woman who had spun 180 degrees on one of those ramps. She approached too fast, lost it and ended facing the wrong direction. So, 30 is definitely not nuts on the tightest part of the corner. The trouble is that you then end up on "fast" lane of the N4 (or N6) and have to accelerate to fit in with the traffic. One thing they need to do is use more solid white lines to stop sudden lane changes in those situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbit v2 View Post
    Mrs O came across a woman who had spun 180 degrees on one of those ramps. She approached too fast, lost it and ended facing the wrong direction. So, 30 is definitely not nuts on the tightest part of the corner. The trouble is that you then end up on "fast" lane of the N4 (or N6) and have to accelerate to fit in with the traffic. One thing they need to do is use more solid white lines to stop sudden lane changes in those situations.
    Another point on speed is the Irish practice of not accelerating onto motorways. The Motorway will be going 100 to 120kph. So the on ramp is so you get up to that BEFORE you attempt to merge. Why are people incapable of doing that. Accept it if you are in an underpowered sh1tbox, but most cars can hit 100 on an on ramp accelerating from 50. Even without straining the engine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gin Soaked View Post
    Another point on speed is the Irish practice of not accelerating onto motorways. The Motorway will be going 100 to 120kph. So the on ramp is so you get up to that BEFORE you attempt to merge. Why are people incapable of doing that. Accept it if you are in an underpowered sh1tbox, but most cars can hit 100 on an on ramp accelerating from 50. Even without straining the engine...
    Nope.

    Get this.

    In Ireland the guy on the on ramp must stop. And wait.


    Thankfully my latest steed has ludicrous mode. Spot the gap. Accelerate into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Nope.

    Get this.

    In Ireland the guy on the on ramp must stop. And wait.


    Thankfully my latest steed has ludicrous mode. Spot the gap. Accelerate into it.
    They must yield / give way to traffic on the motorway. But they must use the ramp to accellerate. My issues are when the road is clear and traffic is light. Some drivers don't even think to look at the motorway traffic.
    You only need 100bhp not to be a hazard on the road. Few cars have less.

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    Is there anyone left who claims it is an offence to drive on the right on Irish roads. There is no general prohibition, I do it all the time. You can drive on the right or left, its your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    Is there anyone left who claims it is an offence to drive on the right on Irish roads. There is no general prohibition, I do it all the time. You can drive on the right or left, its your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    Is there anyone left who claims it is an offence to drive on the right on Irish roads. There is no general prohibition, I do it all the time. You can drive on the right or left, its your choice.
    That's a relief to know. Fool that I am, I had been worried about getting it wrong on my trips home from Canada.

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