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Thread: Feminism, gender quotas and the great lie behind them that is failing our boys, our men, society and humanity?

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    Default Feminism, gender quotas and the great lie behind them that is failing our boys, our men, society and humanity?

    I read the following and reposted it here for discussion. Figures are US but I presume they would be even higher in Ireland. There is a video at the end which may be worth viewing first.

    After papal infallibility is feminism really the equivalent great lie of modern times?

    And what of the gender quota theory, why is it not applied (nor sought by feminists) equally across society?

    80% of suicide victims are men. 97% of combat deaths; men. 93% of workplace deaths; men. 76% of all homicide victims are men. Average jail sentence by gender is 52 months for men and 19 for women. Over 90% of incarcerated are men. 77% of single homeless adults are men.

    90% of divorces are started by women, and they go on to win 84% of custody claims. Following this, 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. 75% of all patients in drug abuse programs are from fatherless homes. 85% of children with behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

    Women in the first world always talk like they have it so bad for whatever reason, but men are much more abused by the system who treat men as the "lesser" and more disposable sex.


    Citations:

    Suicide Rates by Sex. For many years, the suicide rate has been about 4 times higher among men than among women. In 2013, men had a suicide rate of 20.2, and women had a rate of 5.5. Of those who died by suicide in 2013, 77.9% were male and 22.1% were female. https://www.afsp.org/understanding-s...ts-and-figures


    Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. Female veterans comprised 1.9% of all casualties and 2.4% of all deaths. Yet people like Hillary Clinton, the next presidential candidate said “Women are the primary victims in war, It is women who lose husbands, women who lose sons."
    Mortality in female war veterans of operations enduring freedom and Iraqi freedom. - PubMed - NCBI


    92% Of workplace deaths are male. (Page 8 of this.pdf document from the United States Bureau of Labour Statistics)
    http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0011.pdf


    This page is from the Canadian Government, and shows that roughly 75 percent of homicide victims are male in that country each year.
    Victims and persons accused of homicide, by age and sex (Victims)


    A Law professor at the University of Michigan has shown that there is a large sentencing gap by gender, even when all other factors are equal. https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinf...sparities.aspx

    Here is her essay proving that there is a gender sentencing gap.
    Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases by Sonja B. Starr :: SSRN


    Incarceration Rates by gender in the American correctional system: Over 90% Male. In addition, when you include the US prison population .... more men are actually raped than women each year in America. I can provide a citation for this as well.
    Incarceration rates by gender | Prison Policy Initiative


    Women initiate 66-90% of divorces year-by-year.
    Who initiates the divorce more often, the wife or the husband?


    About 1 in 6 custodial parents are fathers. (Top of the first page, second bullet point)
    http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p60-240.pdf


    Fact sheet drawn from government websites showing the percentages of dropouts from fatherless homes.
    http://www.endparentalalienation.com/End_Parental_Alienation/Statistics_on_Fatherless_Homes_files/Statistics%20On%20Fatherless%20Homes.pdf


    Men are 77% of single homeless adults.
    http://www.nhchc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/June2001HealingHands.pdf


    Do the above studies and facts seem like a surprise to you? You may want to ask yourself why no one is aware of any of this, and why we live in a culture where one gender's problems are ignored, and the other gender's problems are constantly talked about. If you are a "feminist" and you are for "gender equality", then you should not have selective moral outrage.

    Men's issues are never discussed because most feminists view the problems faced by men as unimportant because they view men as "privileged". That is why there are things like the missing and murdered aboriginal women hysteria, while 3/4 of murdered aboriginals are actually male according to RCMP stats. That's why there was a bring back our girls campaign all over the media for the Nigerian students, while everyone ignored the fact that every single male student was slaughtered at that school, as well as in the surrounding schools, as is been happening for YEARS. That's why when Elliot Rodger killed 4 men and 2 women, it was viewed as a crime against women, leading to the creation of the #yesallwomen hashtag. That is why when the Canadian Centre for Men and Families was created in Toronto it was viewed as controversial and a breeding ground for sexism against women by the mainstream media and feminists for daring to be male-centric. What did feminism do to raise awareness of the male victims? By thinking that men are privileged, they ignore our problems.

    Feminists will argue that they are for equality by referring to the dictionary definition of feminism ... meanwhile many feminists claim that it's impossible for minority women to be racist or sexist by arguing that racism = power + prejudice. In other words, they refer to the dictionary definition of feminism to defend themselves, but ignore the dictionary definition of racism in the same breath. Why the selective reasoning? Why the selective moral outrage? Most social justice ideologues like to call themselves "progressive", because it is an ideology with movable goal posts. You can apply the words "social justice" to multiple concepts and by doing so, rationalize each one as moral. People who do this are dangerous, because the mass followers of any movement tend to rely on other's opinions to validate their experiences rather that do any real study themselves. That is why most feminists have no idea about male issues, while calling people who advocate for males issues misogynist.

    Feminism attempts to get gender equality by only looking at the problems and needs of one gender, and feminists tend to brand those who do not conform with their ideology as misogynists or morally inferior. Isn't it kind of easy to see why some people might be opposed to feminism, yet supportive of gender equality? Isn't it easy to see that some men might view feminism as a movement that has failed them? Isn't it easy to see why a man might be offended when he is told that feminism is already dealing with his problems? Do you know what gynocentrism means? This whole phenomenon makes the social justice warrior saying: "Privilege is invisible to those who have it", and turns it on it's head. The majority of women I talk to think that the mens rights movement is a white supremacist misogynist hate club .... yet most people are so ignorant that they do not even realize that men's issues exist.

    I end this comment with a link to a video discussing societal attitudes towards men and women:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA



    The video is 16 minutes long, it is worth watching in full. However the primary section referring to feminism and its failings begins at 11.40

    Please give this a like if you agree with the points raised.
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    Why no mention of education? The data shows that boys are increasingly falling further behind girls in school, more females go to university and females dominate the most prestigious courses such as law. Boys and young men are at a massive disadvantage in education.

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    If they are really rich, then the current power distribution in Western society is not failing men.

    In fact it is favouring the massively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    If they are really rich, then the current power distribution in Western society is not failing men.

    In fact it is favouring the massively.
    I think western society favours the really rich, irrespective of gender.
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    The Economist did a piece on this a few weeks ago. Basically it is working class men who are failing to achieve their potential. They are rapidly becoming an underclass. Middle class men seem to be doing just fine.
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    I still wouldn't swap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    The Economist did a piece on this a few weeks ago. Basically it is working class men who are failing to achieve their potential. They are rapidly becoming an underclass. Middle class men seem to be doing just fine.
    If there's one demographic it's acceptable to despise these days it's working class straight white men. Both the liberals and conservatives despise them.

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    As I happened to watch this yesterday I'll throw in here .This is an interesting interview and critique about the neglect of boys education in the US


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry94. View Post
    I still wouldn't swap.
    Not even if there was only one seat left on the lifeboat, one bed left at the homeless shelter, one seat left on the train?
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    Excellent Opening Post.

    Well worth reading and listening to.

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