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    Quote Originally Posted by paulp View Post
    Someone who couldn't be further away from the border or impact of illegal immigration from Southern border goes to that trouble.
    Well, that depends on what border of course given his state, North Dakota, sits on a border....

    At 5,525 miles, including Alaska, the northern border is the longest international boundary in the world. Without Alaska, the 3,987- mile line capping the Lower 48 is the third- longest. Politicians, federal agents, pundits, and most Americans focus on the line with Mexico, even though its northern cousin is more than twice its length and many times more porous. The only known terrorists to cross overland into the US came from the north. Fifty- six billion dollars in smuggled drugs and ten thousand illegal aliens cross the US- Canada border every year. Two thousand agents watch the line. Nine times that number patrol the southern boundary. According to a 2010 Congressional Research Service report, US Customs and Border Protection maintains “operational control” over just sixty- nine miles of the northern border.
    'Northland' Explores Life Along That 'Other' U.S. Border - Northland

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere View Post
    Well, that depends on what border of course given his state, North Dakota, sits on a border....


    'Northland' Explores Life Along That 'Other' U.S. Border - Northland
    The lefties are doing it themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnypockets View Post
    Nothing to do with an open doors policy. Its to do with a stupid wall.

    What kind of wall do Canada and Australia have?
    Australia has a sea, and those who try to enter illegally are sent to Nauru. In short a grown up immigration policy that welcomes those with in demand skills.
    So do you favour an open doors immigration policy and if so do you think only the US should have this policy ? Should Ireland ?

    Nobody prepared to answer this on here. Like Bob Geldof promising to take refugees in to his house the lot of you !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere View Post
    Opponents are arguing for realistic, effective and cost-efficient means of border security.
    Such as ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruman View Post
    Such as ?
    Such as all the things in previous bills and the things agreed in the bill submitted to Trump. There actually isn’t huge disagreement between the parties on what’s needed on the border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    Such as all the things in previous bills and the things agreed in the bill submitted to Trump. There actually isn’t huge disagreement between the parties on what’s needed on the border.
    This. And something that can be sorted out in a day, less even without anybody losing face, both sides accentuating what they won etc, otherwise known as, politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TweetyBird View Post
    This. And something that can be sorted out in a day, less even without anybody losing face, both sides accentuating what they won etc, otherwise known as, politics.
    Yup. But we’re past that now. The “wall” isn’t the point anymore. Now it’s just a point of the president delivering. It could be a tax cut, it could be Medicaid, whatever.

    It’s going to be a concrete wall
    Mexico is going to pay for it
    I’m going to own the shut down to get the wall
    I’m going to declare an emergency to get the wall.

    Now you can substitute “wall” for “X”, whatever policy name you like. The president has promised something explicitly, said who would pay for it and then shut down government for the longest time ever to try and get that. He’s now got to get X or its pretty much over. He’s done in the eyes of both parties and the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    Yup. But we’re past that now. The “wall” isn’t the point anymore. Now it’s just a point of the president delivering. It could be a tax cut, it could be Medicaid, whatever.

    It’s going to be a concrete wall
    Mexico is going to pay for it
    I’m going to own the shut down to get the wall
    I’m going to declare an emergency to get the wall.

    Now you can substitute “wall” for “X”, whatever policy name you like. The president has promised something explicitly, said who would pay for it and then shut down government for the longest time ever to try and get that. He’s now got to get X or its pretty much over. He’s done in the eyes of both parties and the public.
    He's already conceded on 'concrete wall' and on Mexico paying (trade deal), so it's a short step to take. He'll still spin it afterwards as Dems blocking the wall, fought his best, but shut down had to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    Yup. But we’re past that now. The “wall” isn’t the point anymore. Now it’s just a point of the president delivering. It could be a tax cut, it could be Medicaid, whatever.

    It’s going to be a concrete wall
    Mexico is going to pay for it
    I’m going to own the shut down to get the wall
    I’m going to declare an emergency to get the wall.

    Now you can substitute “wall” for “X”, whatever policy name you like. The president has promised something explicitly, said who would pay for it and then shut down government for the longest time ever to try and get that. He’s now got to get X or its pretty much over. He’s done in the eyes of both parties and the public.
    Dont think either party likes him, as we know he used to be a democrat and the WASP establishment in the republican party dont like him.
    That said its very difficult to unseat a republican incumbent , impossible unless the economy is a disaster in almost all occassions.
    The Dems reselecting a has been like Pelosi would suggest they've learnt little from selecting has been hillary. Kind of weird the way the Dems have moved backwards after rejecting Hillary in favour of a relatively unknown senator offering change in 2008.
    Young Biden in 2020?

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    Be the Wall.

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