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    Default Court finds collusion just a figment of Nationalist imagination.

    News report just breaking
    Judge says nationalist police omsbudmans report into collusion in Loughinisland massacre were"unsustainable in law"
    He also says the report was
    "careless, thoughtless and inattentive in the language and structuring of the document"

    A more scathing indictment of the police ombudsman could not have been more forthcoming.

    Hopefully this will put the issue of collusion to bed once and for all.

    Loughinisland report: Authors' language was 'careless' - BBC News
    “I think we have to remember that in the vast majority of cases, the police and security forces acted with integrity, courage and professionalism." Theresa Villiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by death or glory View Post
    News report just breaking
    Judge says nationalist police omsbudmans report into collusion in Loughinisland massacre were"unsustainable in law"
    He also says the report was
    "careless, thoughtless and inattentive in the language and structuring of the document"

    A more scathing indictment of the police ombudsman could not have been more forthcoming.

    Hopefully this will put the issue of collusion to bed once and for all.

    Loughinisland report: Authors' language was 'careless' - BBC News
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    BBC News NI's Home Affairs correspondent, Vincent Kearney said: "This does not mean the Loughinisland report has been quashed.

    "The judge will receive further legal submissions whether to do so."
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by death or glory View Post
    News report just breaking
    Judge says nationalist police omsbudmans report into collusion in Loughinisland massacre were"unsustainable in law"
    He also says the report was
    "careless, thoughtless and inattentive in the language and structuring of the document"

    A more scathing indictment of the police ombudsman could not have been more forthcoming.

    Hopefully this will put the issue of collusion to bed once and for all.

    Loughinisland report: Authors' language was 'careless' - BBC News
    Puts collusion to bed?
    Ffs catch yourself on.

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    Well if the omsbudman's report is not squashed after that, I'd be surpised.
    It has undermined any future omsbudman reports and calls into question the omsbudman impartiality and decision making skills.
    “I think we have to remember that in the vast majority of cases, the police and security forces acted with integrity, courage and professionalism." Theresa Villiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by death or glory View Post
    News report just breaking
    Judge says nationalist police omsbudmans report into collusion in Loughinisland massacre were"unsustainable in law"
    He also says the report was
    "careless, thoughtless and inattentive in the language and structuring of the document"

    A more scathing indictment of the police ombudsman could not have been more forthcoming.

    Hopefully this will put the issue of collusion to bed once and for all.

    Loughinisland report: Authors' language was 'careless' - BBC News
    Nationalists will have to find something else to blame for their losing their terrorist war against the decent people of NI.

    The 'Brits fought dirty', like their dirty protesters, just won't wash...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Nationalists will have to find something else to blame for their losing their terrorist war against the decent people of NI.

    The 'Brits fought dirty', like their dirty protesters, just won't wash...
    Sweet,
    couldn't have put it any better myself.
    “I think we have to remember that in the vast majority of cases, the police and security forces acted with integrity, courage and professionalism." Theresa Villiers

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    All the language and talk from republicans, it has been speculation and accusations. We have some of the finest thresholds and mechanisms of justice in the world.

    All the prejudices republicans harbour towards the people and the rules of law here do nothing to enable justice. They are very careful in their language, go further and name names I say, its all in the public domain...

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    There is no doubt that whatever about this one incident, that it has clearly been established that in NI as a whole, collusion was a fact. Brian Nelson and the FRU (Force Research Unit) attest to that fact. The media campaign to oust John Stalker when he was getting too close to the truth also attests to that. And the fact that the UDA was not banned until 1995.
    Fair and Balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    There is no doubt that whatever about this one incident, that it has clearly been established that in NI as a whole, collusion was a fact. Brian Nelson and the FRU (Force Research Unit) attest to that fact. The burning of the Stalker enquiry's offices in the 1980s attest to that, and the media campaign to oust him when he was getting too close to the truth.
    No, it hasn't.
    The most that has been established is that the British had infiltrated at all levels all paramilitary groups and weakened them to a point that they had to admit defeat. If that is what you call collusion well then as the judge says it isn't "sustainable in law".
    “I think we have to remember that in the vast majority of cases, the police and security forces acted with integrity, courage and professionalism." Theresa Villiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmore.. View Post
    All the language and talk from republicans, it has been speculation and accusations. We have some of the finest thresholds and mechanisms of justice in the world.

    All the prejudices republicans harbour towards the people and the rules of law here do nothing to enable justice. They are very careful in their language, go further and name names I say, its all in the public domain...
    David Cameron said of course there was collusion in the murder of Pat Finucane, do you seriously expect anyone to believe that was a one off?
    Yes or no?

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