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    Quote Originally Posted by yanshuf View Post
    Irish leftos are antisemites in essence, so it doesn't really matter what they think.
    Yet here you are, 12,500 posts later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanshuf View Post
    It's not convincing, but stating the bare truth, that is very hard for you to cope with!
    You say bare truth. I say clumsy cut and paste propaganda.

    But the point does remain, you aren't winnig anyone over. Is it one of those you have a budget, spend it deals?

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    I'm here in spite of the leftistics here. Where there are antisemites, there should be someone who tells the truths.

    It's the same with the info reg. Mary Robinson, G.H.M.O.H.B.S.
    The book totally contradicts any post-modern theory claiming a “Palestinian heritage,” or Palestinian nation. https://palestineisraelconflict.word...-palestinians/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buchaill Dana View Post
    Its anti semetic to believe Israel shouldn't arm neo-naxis
    What is antisemitic is daily digging out these smears on Israel and accepting them at face value - never considering for example, in this case, that the Jewish communal body of Ukraine (Vaad) came out in 2016 stating that "... there is no kind of ‘neo-Nazi Ukrainian militia’ now. Azov is a regular military unit subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. It is not irregular division neither a political group. Its commanders and fighters might have personal political views as individuals, but as an armed police unit Azov is a part of the system of the Ukrainian defense forces...” (Vyacheslav A. Likhachev, speaking on behalf of the Vaad).

    Or that the US decided first that the Ukranian government including Azov should be supported.

    Or that this story is all over the Russian media sites, coming from there, and they are obviously seeking to discredit Ukraine. You know Jews in Ukraine are saying with respect to all these neo-Nazi references that the object is anti-Ukranian defamation and that of those weighing in behind it, “Most of them can’t even find Ukraine on the map...”.

    Now, I'm personally not issuing a judgement one way or the other, all I am saying is that these kind of smears are never-ending, and every single time one looks a little into them, they are never as self evident or clear as they are purported to be.

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    Now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buchaill Dana View Post
    Now...
    Now, what?

    Tell me what is the real difference between the way you uncritically and with a certain amount of glee pick up these kind of smears, and hurl them at the Israelis, and say your counterparts on politicalirish.com, just to take ONE example smear on the Israelis posted there in the last 5 minutes, "... Anyway because of the massive practice of homosexuality and witchcraft by Jews in the Holy Land if you are going to take the Torah seriously than the Zionist colonialists have utterly polluted the land which eventually will spit them out..." (link)

    No doubt there are different levels here, but it's the exact same modus operandi. Some accusation posted on a site by one or other of Israel's many enemies is spread like wildfire around the internet by people you and this massive anti-Israel mob that there is out there. There usually is some "article" or "podcast" cited to back up the accusation.

    But always, once you begin to examine the accusation by the kinds of standards as would prevail in a proper court, and you inevitably find there is much more to the story, and that there are distortions, deliberate omissions and sometimes outright fabrications involved.

    Oh look, here's another one I notice at the top of the page there - The Zionist colonialist State pushed anti-Catholic conspiracy theories to its soldiers! | Political Irish

    Oh, I need to just get with the programme and recognise this is all reasoned "criticism", and the "righteous" democracy of concerned citizens in action. It's just me, isn't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buchaill Dana View Post
    Who are you trying to convince with that nonsense?
    Tuam/yanshuf loves his videos pointed at chinese babies videos.....when they seen them,they were all disturbed......even Tusla are keeping an eye on him....not necessarily for porn..but they are right...he needs keeping an eye on.
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    A New poll shows rampant racism in Israel....It's about time the zionists owned up .
    "You think thats bad,theres one lunatic that posts on there 40-50 times a day..He's alone..in bad company!

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    Netanyahu is upset because, according to an agreement in Haifa, the new Jewish mayor must condemn all expressions of racism, even if it comes from the Knesset or the prime minister’s residence......he is going to have his hands full there.
    "You think thats bad,theres one lunatic that posts on there 40-50 times a day..He's alone..in bad company!

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    Quote Originally Posted by james toney View Post
    Netanyahu is upset because, according to an agreement in Haifa, the new Jewish mayor must condemn all expressions of racism, even if it comes from the Knesset or the prime minister’s residence......he is going to have his hands full there.

    Netanyahu is not upset, he simply said that he's going to make sure that terror supporters like the Hizballah and Hamas supporters from the arab parties, could not become deputy mayors.

    And he is right, arabs who support hizballah and hamas are terror supporters who could not be part of the public life.
    The book totally contradicts any post-modern theory claiming a “Palestinian heritage,” or Palestinian nation. https://palestineisraelconflict.word...-palestinians/

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