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    Quote Originally Posted by gooner View Post
    Did you not read the article from Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight site I posted?

    Here is WHO's website.

    Abortions per 1000 live births - European Health Information Gateway

    Check the fourth column from French Statistics. It's abortions per 100 live births.
    So it doesn't include miscarriages or deaths in utero - as I said.

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    Abortions - Abortion, contraception - France - Data - Ined - Institut national d’études démographiques

    Here is the Office for National Statistics in the UK.

    Conceptions in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

    You can download the statistics from that report here(Excel) if you wish and you will see that the 1 in 5 poster referenced during the campaign was correct.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peo...tables2016.xls
    The funny thing is that you wreck your own arguments all by yourself :
    there is a legal requirement to record these data making them the best and most complete data
    Why does this matter for the UK but you expect people to take you seriously with your bits and pieces of information gathered here and there from various sources?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    I wasn't aware that GPs provided abortions anywhere.
    Only one to my knowledge is Australia.

    In South Australia, there were 241 abortions out of 4,439 through GPs in 2015. That was only 5.4% of all abortions. (page 55)

    https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/w...78685a-m13MJ0U

    In Western Australia, 2.6% went through GPs in 2015. (page 30)

    https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/~/media...rt-2013-15.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    I wasn't aware that GPs provided abortions anywhere.
    I reckon at least 70% of our medical professionals will want nothing to do with abortion.

    Figures compiled by the Italian government show the percentage of gynaecologists objecting has jumped from 58.7% in 2005 to 70.9% in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDaisyC View Post
    And yet here's a big ole post extrapolating Repeal the 8th (Second Thread) - Page 378 ! Live Births:Abortions =/= percentage.

    They are liars and this can be backed up by facts. Breast cancer, child abuse, depression, Nurse Noel, etc etc
    I’m a prolifer. Are you excluding me from your sweeping generalization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    So it doesn't include miscarriages or deaths in utero - as I said.



    The funny thing is that you wreck your own arguments all by yourself :


    Why does this matter for the UK but you expect people to take you seriously with your bits and pieces of information gathered here and there from various sources?
    You are something else.

    The no. of Irish women travelling is directly from the British government's own report.

    The no. of Irish women travelling to the Netherlands is from their own Ministry for Health report which you can see here for Ireland (2011-2016 on page 29).

    https://www.igj.nl/binaries/igj/docu...+16-1-2017.pdf

    You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDaisyC View Post
    And yet here's a big ole post extrapolating Repeal the 8th (Second Thread) - Page 378 ! Live Births:Abortions =/= percentage.

    Do you actually know what extrapolate means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooner View Post
    The no. of Irish women travelling is directly from the British government's own report.

    The no. of Irish women travelling to the Netherlands is from their own Ministry for Health report which you can see here for Ireland (2011-2016 on page 29).

    https://www.igj.nl/binaries/igj/docu...+16-1-2017.pdf

    You're welcome.
    That's not in doubt, the point is that you don't know - because nobody knows - how many more abortions Irish women have had : how many went to a different country for their abortion because they had friends or family there, how many ordered abortion pills, now many indeed may have used some of the older, more traumatic methods.

    Nobody knows. But we know that the number provided by the Uk is not the total number.
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    The funny thing about this is that the pro-abortion posters on here regularly said once upon a time Netherlands kept no records of Irish women travelling until I corrected them on it.

    The cherry picking of data was alive and well then when I was reading this forum long before I joined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooner View Post
    The funny thing about this is that the pro-abortion posters on here regularly said once about time Netherlands kept no records of Irish women travelling until I corrected them on it.
    Not something I've ever said, so I don't know why you think it's relevant. Although FWIW they didn't provide records for some years, not sure how many, so whoever said that may simply have been a little out of date.

    Quote Originally Posted by gooner View Post
    The cherry picking of data was alive and well then when I was reading this forum long before I joined.
    KOBO

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