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    Quote Originally Posted by gandyalf View Post
    'Your side', it's been said here many times, as a matter of fact:

    Trump's disbelief won't stop dangerous climate change

    And neither will yours, as a matter of fact.
    These are empty predictions. No one can tell the future.

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    The idea of our government (as Denis Naughton and Richard Bruton) said is to put Ireland in front as a leader on co2 emission reduction. What mandate does the current government have to do that? Climate was not mentioned in the campaigns for the last general election except by the 2 Green candidates. Then they only mentioned it sparingly.

    In the last British general election, it was only mentioned once by Natalie Bennet who lost. There is only one Green British MP. There was a secret agreement with Soros and Mary Robbinsus to push it through without a debate. Who authorized the irish government to implement such hardships on the poorest of people? I though there was no way to break this obsession, then France happened. Lets hope history repeats itself and the French Revolution spreads to Ireland and put these clowns out of office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandyalf View Post
    Macron has now joined Trump in abandoning the racket, who is left, Ireland.

    There is a new farmers association started up, from what I hear, they won't be as submissive as the IFA was on farm emission taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    The idea of our government (as Denis Naughton and Richard Bruton) said is to put Ireland in front as a leader on co2 emission reduction. What mandate does the current government have to do that? Climate was not mentioned in the campaigns for the last general election except by the 2 Green candidates. Then they only mentioned it sparingly.

    In the last British general election, it was only mentioned once by Natalie Bennet who lost. There is only one Green British MP. There was a secret agreement with Soros and Mary Robbinsus to push it through without a debate. Who authorized the irish government to implement such hardships on the poorest of people? I though there was no way to break this obsession, then France happened. Lets hope history repeats itself and the French Revolution spreads to Ireland and put these clowns out of office.
    you of all people should be proud of how little the Irish government are doing about climate change.
    There is no Keyser Soze

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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    When were the co2 targets put to the people in a referendum?
    Ireland is a representative democracy. We elect deputies to represent us in the legislative assembly.

    The elected deputies voted 74 to 10 to enact the Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Bill 2015.

    Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Bill 2015: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage Houses of the Oireachtas
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    Temperatures in the lower atmosphere, a few miles above us. Chart from the University of Alabama Huntsville.

    Another satellite series from the contractor RSS

    "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Ireland is a representative democracy. We elect deputies to represent us in the legislative assembly.

    The elected deputies voted 74 to 10 to enact the Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Bill 2015.

    Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Bill 2015: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage Houses of the Oireachtas
    Do you really want to have a debate as to whose interests the "deputies" represent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulp View Post
    you of all people should be proud of how little the Irish government are doing about climate change.
    It could not do any more to abate a non existent problem Massive electricity charges, making it a luxury and beyond the reach of the poor. Massive levies on fuel, to keep warm and ,move about. They even give a small winter fuel allowance to welfare recipients of social assistance and then place a levy on the same fuel. 3,400 MW of wind, and building more as fast as it can,. Buying out unprofitable wind farms. I cannot see what more it can do. I would like if it banned all fossil fuel altogether immediately but it plans to move to a zero carbon economy in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post


    Temperatures in the lower atmosphere, a few miles above us. Chart from the University of Alabama Huntsville.

    Another satellite series from the contractor RSS

    Try out Cape Norris Jessup. Raw data from the North pole. Its 16 degrees C colder to day than it was on this day in 2005. Weather archive in Cape Morris Jesup

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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    It could not do any more to abate a non existent problem Massive electricity charges, making it a luxury and beyond the reach of the poor. Massive levies on fuel, to keep warm and ,move about. They even give a small winter fuel allowance to welfare recipients of social assistance and then place a levy on the same fuel. 3,400 MW of wind, and building more as fast as it can,. Buying out unprofitable wind farms. I cannot see what more it can do. I would like if it banned all fossil fuel altogether immediately but it plans to move to a zero carbon economy in a few years.
    and no reduction in carbon emissions.

    very small effort with zero impact.
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