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    Quote Originally Posted by fat finger View Post
    Why has RTE reported the teacher was stabbed instead of had his throat slit?
    All the French news media, including Le Figaro which is quite right wing, use the word "poignardé" (stabbed) to death and not "égorgé" (throat slit). They also say he was stabbed about 10 times, including once in the neck.

    Maybe RTE are basing their information on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagertha View Post
    She wants citizenship for child migrants who were born here and who've been here for 3 years or more. She can't see how ludicrous that is, that it's the opposite of what we voted on in 2004. The chap from Renua pointed out to her that it's against what people voted for, asked her who was going to look after these kids and where the kids going to be at Dublin airport waving goodbye to their parents being deported. He also pointed out that it could lead to women being pressured into coming here in the late stages of pregnancy to give birth knowing that they'd be able to drag the asylum process out for at least 3 years gaining the child entitlement to citizenship and thus a loophole allowing the family to stay.
    In these days of Ryan-air, cheap airline travel, people-smuggling on an industrial scale and government-funded NGOs and even government ships patrolling the waters to pick people up from the ships/dinghies and ferry them to Italy it's becoming harder and harder to justify giving citizenship to some woman's child just because she plonked herself down on Irish territory and sought free natal asisstance in our already over-crowded health system.
    I'd refer you to the case of the U.S.A. They were/are? quite generous in this "jus soli" right of citizenship to those born there. But for your information, it was only some time in the 1930s that the native american Indians received the right to citizenship and voting rights.
    You might be aghast and outraged at this injustice, but just think about it! If the American Indians had got citizenship and voting rights back in 1776, why they would have (theoretically) voted white-ass and all his ilk to pack his bags and git back to Europe.
    Someone should make a movie about this place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat finger View Post
    This single barbarian act should be enough to stop right there any further talk of mosques being built in this country funded from abroad. Not another cent
    The government only just gave an amnesty to the 5000+ bogus English language students who used the visa as an easy way to enter the country with no intention of ever leaving. I wonder how many more are here illegally? There's no way the government is going to stop this. These bullsh1t English language school shams need to be stopped. The Irish one is owned and run by a foreign national Muslim who was going as far afield as Mongolia to ''recruit'' students at 5000 euro cash in advance. The idea of coming to Ireland from the Middle East, Africa or the Orient to study English is absurd. As long as the nice big mountains of Saudi cash keep flowing into Ireland the Muslims will be let do what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagertha View Post
    The government only just gave an amnesty to the 5000+ bogus English language students who used the visa as an easy way to enter the country with no intention of ever leaving. I wonder how many more are here illegally? There's no way the government is going to stop this. These bullsh1t English language school shams need to be stopped. The Irish one is owned and run by a foreign national Muslim who was going as far afield as Mongolia to ''recruit'' students at 5000 euro cash in advance. The idea of coming to Ireland from the Middle East, Africa or the Orient to study English is absurd. As long as the nice big mountains of Saudi cash keep flowing into Ireland the Muslims will be let do what they want.
    They will do anything for cheap Labour . Also if they bring Black and Muslim immigrants in then they can Shout RACIST at any that disagree . Being able to call people Racist is ‘ Annihilate Any Opposition ‘ ammunition available at all times .

    Its all about Cheap Labour . They want your Children and Grand Children to work as Cheap Labour .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagertha View Post
    The government only just gave an amnesty to the 5000+ bogus English language students who used the visa as an easy way to enter the country with no intention of ever leaving. I wonder how many more are here illegally? There's no way the government is going to stop this. These bullsh1t English language school shams need to be stopped. The Irish one is owned and run by a foreign national Muslim who was going as far afield as Mongolia to ''recruit'' students at 5000 euro cash in advance. The idea of coming to Ireland from the Middle East, Africa or the Orient to study English is absurd. As long as the nice big mountains of Saudi cash keep flowing into Ireland the Muslims will be let do what they want.
    Well, in a way, if these English language schools are allowed to collapse like this (and no more are licenced) then it may be a self-limiting problem. Perhaps they should be encouraged to be reckless so they end up trading while insolvent as this "educator's" establishment has. It would be cheaper to pay off the losses of the foreign students who've lost money after closing all these "schools" than handling all the many illegal immigrants (sorry "English language students") the encourage.

    And the opposite side of the coin to the Saudi Funding here (why don't they fund hospitals or more aid in the Middle East instead?), is the large outflows of remittances from Ireland to other countries. Here are the top 10 amounts (in millions of $) from Ireland sent by private individuals in 2017
    WORLD 2,161
    Nigeria 473
    United Kingdom 243
    Poland 205
    France 131
    India 100
    Lithuania 80
    China 76
    Philippines 75
    Spain 70
    Hungary 69
    Migration and Remittances Data (Bilateral remittance matrix 2017)

    $473m went to Nigeria last year. For a segment of the population with such a high unemployment rate, they certainly punch above their weight. Using the official census figure of ~17,000, that's over €20,000 per Nigerian, every year. (Even if there are twice as many here, that's still a big number.) They must be some of the best savers on the planet! Are they all highly paid executives in the IFSC, and not the cash-in-hand taxi drivers people think they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagertha View Post
    The government only just gave an amnesty to the 5000+ bogus English language students who used the visa as an easy way to enter the country with no intention of ever leaving. I wonder how many more are here illegally? There's no way the government is going to stop this. These bullsh1t English language school shams need to be stopped. The Irish one is owned and run by a foreign national Muslim who was going as far afield as Mongolia to ''recruit'' students at 5000 euro cash in advance. The idea of coming to Ireland from the Middle East, Africa or the Orient to study English is absurd. As long as the nice big mountains of Saudi cash keep flowing into Ireland the Muslims will be let do what they want.
    I'm shocked but not surprised at all this. One thing that always kind of puzzled me is what drives/motivates the govt on this entire shabang. How much are they driven by
    1) Money.
    2) The approval they crave from the Liberal wing who control the EU
    3) some sort of misled humanitarian motivation to uphold a system where all anybody needs for entry to Ireland is to say the word "asylum".

    Some sort of mixture of all three, I guess.

    Incidentally, if reducing climate change and carbon foot-print is the imperative of our age, mass-migration to the west is doing the exact opposite of what should be done. Each new arrival will strive after a car, a fridge, spin-dryer airline-travel etc., etc.
    You can say what you like against the poor fuzzie-wuzzie driving his oxen and cart to the paddy-field to sow his rice. But he does a lot less harm to the environment and uses a lot less energy than your average westerner driving his Audi (or even riding his bike) to work.
    But they should use more condoms, come to think of it.
    Someone should make a movie about this place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by __e621 View Post
    Well, in a way, if these English language schools are allowed to collapse like this (and no more are licenced) then it may be a self-limiting problem. Perhaps they should be encouraged to be reckless so they end up trading while insolvent as this "educator's" establishment has. It would be cheaper to pay off the losses of the foreign students who've lost money after closing all these "schools" than handling all the many illegal immigrants (sorry "English language students") the encourage.

    And the opposite side of the coin to the Saudi Funding here (why don't they fund hospitals or more aid in the Middle East instead?), is the large outflows of remittances from Ireland to other countries. Here are the top 10 amounts (in millions of $) from Ireland sent by private individuals in 2017
    WORLD 2,161
    Nigeria 473
    United Kingdom 243
    Poland 205
    France 131
    India 100
    Lithuania 80
    China 76
    Philippines 75
    Spain 70
    Hungary 69
    Migration and Remittances Data (Bilateral remittance matrix 2017)

    $473m went to Nigeria last year. For a segment of the population with such a high unemployment rate, they certainly punch above their weight. Using the official census figure of ~17,000, that's over €20,000 per Nigerian, every year. (Even if there are twice as many here, that's still a big number.) They must be some of the best savers on the planet! Are they all highly paid executives in the IFSC, and not the cash-in-hand taxi drivers people think they are?
    The collapses in the industry don't solve the problem though. There have been multiple issues with these places over the years and it has to be acknowledged that these ''students'' aren't here to learn English they are taking these courses because they get a visa to Ireland and then they can vanish. It's been a massive issue in Britain with mostly Pakistani men getting student visas for Britain and when those visas are close to expiry they are coming over here across the border seeking asylum. You can learn a language for free online there's no need to allow this nonsense to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagertha View Post
    The collapses in the industry don't solve the problem though. There have been multiple issues with these places over the years and it has to be acknowledged that these ''students'' aren't here to learn English they are taking these courses because they get a visa to Ireland and then they can vanish. It's been a massive issue in Britain with mostly Pakistani men getting student visas for Britain and when those visas are close to expiry they are coming over here across the border seeking asylum. You can learn a language for free online there's no need to allow this nonsense to continue.
    Yes, and here's an Irish girl that got top marks in a language, studying entirely by herself.
    Mamma Mia! Pupil gets A in Italian without attending a class

    She didn't need to join a dodgy language school, or any school at all. Do hundreds of Brazilians really need to come here to "learn English"? A job in a skills-shortage area or a university place, yes, but spending a few hours a week in class without any need to do anything approaching regular attendance or pass an exam (as all the school really wants is the cash up-front) is a definite no.

    If they are that desperate for Irish teaching skills, it would be much cheaper to employ Irish teachers in Brazil. It would save the students so much money on course fees, accommodation and travel. Why do they allow it - according to the Irish Times "The international English-language teaching market is worth an estimated €762 million to the Irish economy, according to the Department of Education."

    The powers that be see that magic €762m and any unpleasant thoughts of illegal immigrants or language school regulation just fade away...

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    ^^^^ Its about Cheap Labour . Its not Rocket Science .

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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    All the French news media, including Le Figaro which is quite right wing, use the word "poignardé" (stabbed) to death and not "égorgé" (throat slit). They also say he was stabbed about 10 times, including once in the neck.

    Maybe RTE are basing their information on that?

    RTE are not a credible news media - they are constantly spinning to protect the illegal dangerous migrants 'reputations' and background - like all the Western media - EU orders.

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