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Thread: How Would The Irish language Have Fared In An Ireland Fully Under British Rule To This Day?

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    As it says on the tin. I can't imagine that it would have fared any better than it did! Mind you, the curriculum might have been a bit more palatable in the schools for young people.
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    Indeed how would traditional Irish Music and dancing and Gaelic Games have done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Urko View Post
    As it says on the tin. I can't imagine that it would have fared any better than it did! Mind you, the curriculum might have been a bit more palatable in the schools for young people.
    Quote Originally Posted by General Urko View Post
    Indeed how would traditional Irish Music and dancing and Gaelic Games have done?
    Your stream of consciousness OPs might look less thin if rather than adding a second post you used the edit function on the first one ....

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    As it says on the tin. I can't imagine that it would have fared any better than it did! Mind you, the curriculum might have been a bit more palatable in the schools for young people.


    Indeed how would traditional Irish Music and dancing and Gaelic Games have done?

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    If anything, Conradh was at its highest grassroots popularity precisely when Ireland was under British rule, and the subsequent decline came about because it abdicated responsibility to the State. Perhaps it would have fared similarly to Welsh,remaining a community language as an antagonistic reaction to UK domination? Of course, a Home Rule parliament would have been granted eventually after WWI, so it could have fared exactly the same at that point.

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    Possibly better than it has done, if we are to judge by the example of Welsh. But that would require sufficient numbers of people who actually spoke Irish as a home language.

    It is surprising the number of Welsh luminaries, thoroughly dependent on English patronage to make their way in the world, who nevertheless grew up speaking Welsh as their first language. Richard Burton springs to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breanainn View Post
    If anything, Conradh was at its highest grassroots popularity precisely when Ireland was under British rule, and the subsequent decline came about because it abdicated responsibility to the State. //

    Back in 1905 ithey called themselves Connrad na Gaedilge....

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    Irish is undergoing a very very mini revival at the moment. Unfortunately it will probably remain a "hobby language" for most. Ach níl sé marbh.
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    I mean does anyone think this would have happened 20 or 30 years ago?

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    Economically Ireland is free of Westminster. But culturally we are not. Look to the North for the answer to the O.P. How is Irish doing up there? N.I is still ruled by London.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Urko View Post
    As it says on the tin. I can't imagine that it would have fared any better than it did! Mind you, the curriculum might have been a bit more palatable in the schools for young people.
    Northern Ireland has remained under British rule. So that is the answer to your question. The state of an Gaeilge in North.
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