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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    The preference is to deal with Irish reunification only after th unionists are put in such a position that their voice counts for nothing and with the United Kingdom falling apart the English themselves might say enough is enough and just dump the place.
    England could have, and seriously considered, dumping NI in the 1970s. But the GFA ties them to NI so long as NI consents to it. I'm actually still shocked that the UUP signed up to the GFA as even at that time it was obvious there would be a nationalist majority within a generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll_On View Post
    England could have, and seriously considered, dumping NI in the 1970s. But the GFA ties them to NI so long as NI consents to it. I'm actually still shocked that the UUP signed up to the GFA as even at that time it was obvious there would be a nationalist majority within a generation.
    Unionists aren't the sharpest tools in the box.
    There are only two genders.

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    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll_On View Post
    England could have, and seriously considered, dumping NI in the 1970s. But the GFA ties them to NI so long as NI consents to it. I'm actually still shocked that the UUP signed up to the GFA as even at that time it was obvious there would be a nationalist majority within a generation.
    A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
    It needs to be a significant majority. So we're probably talking another 50 years after nationalists become a majority.

    Then there's the further question of what Ireland will be like then.

    I find it ironic that those in favour of a UI are pointing at Northern demographics and laughing at the demise of Unionist control.
    Meanwhile in the republic, mass immigration is having the precise same effect on the native Irish, but in a far quicker timeframe.

    How much of a success is a United Ireland if the Irish turn out to be a minority in their own country ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
    It needs to be a significant majority. So we're probably talking another 50 years after nationalists become a majority.

    Then there's the further question of what Ireland will be like then.

    I find it ironic that those in favour of a UI are pointing at Northern demographics and laughing at the demise of Unionist control.
    Meanwhile in the republic, mass immigration is having the precise same effect on the native Irish, but in a far quicker timeframe.

    How much of a success is a United Ireland if the Irish turn out to be a minority in their own country ?
    We are going to be a mongrel country like England in 50 years and that is what they want.
    There are only two genders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
    It needs to be a significant majority. So we're probably talking another 50 years after nationalists become a majority.
    U
    Then there's the further question of what Ireland will be like then.

    I find it ironic that those in favour of a UI are pointing at Northern demographics and laughing at the demise of Unionist control.
    Meanwhile in the republic, mass immigration is having the precise same effect on the native Irish, but in a far quicker timeframe.

    How much of a success is a United Ireland if the Irish turn out to be a minority in their own country ?
    50% +1 (and you know it)
    and stop the racist shíte
    "If we VOTE YES there will be no more austere budgets. Fact " Hammer, mayday 12'

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    50% +1 (and you know it)
    and stop the racist shíte
    You need to get sufficient numbers of Catholics to vote for a UI.
    50%+1 nationalist population does not equal 50%+1 vote for a UI.

    'racist' lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    A simple nationalist majority doesn't equal a United Ireland.
    It needs o be a significant majority.
    Sorry that is not the criteria that has been agreed in the GFA. On that point what percentage do you think it should be?

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    https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/new...-37696467.html

    On the United Ireland 24 hour clock countdown, we just moved two hours closer to midnight.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    One Cabinet source told Politics Home: "The view was that a border poll in Northern Ireland was all-but inevitable if there is a no-deal Brexit because Sinn Fein would demand it straight away.
    Well I don't know about "straight away".
    A No Deal Brexit would usher in a golden age for the border smuggling racketeers.
    They'll need a bit of time to take full advantage of the boom.

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