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    Google employees walked out of multiple work sites today (including the Dublin site) demanding the following:



    Here is an article with some context.

    Google staff walk out over women's treatment - BBC News

    One could conclude Google is a nasty place to work since they seem to treat alleged harassment victims quite badly and the alleged harassers quite well.

    Not sure if that is the right conclusion. They have led the way in good treatment of employees in other ways (pay, perks, free food, everyone wants to work there). They fired James Damore to show support for women in the company. Many other tech companies would not have done that. One of Damores points was that the environment was a bit too strong on affirmative action as an attempt to progress the careers of women.

    The list of demands strikes me as a mixed bag.

    One question: Putting yourself in a CEOs shoes: which of the demands are reasonable and which are not ?

    Second question: This was bound to happen one day or another. But why does this first arise in Google ? What makes them more susceptible to it.

    Third question: put yourself in a shareholders shoes: do you feel more safe or less safe in your investment due to this ?

    Fourth question: put yourself in an employees shoes, does this occurrence encourage you to stay or leave ?




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    Take the chief diversity officer out and shoot them.
    Lesson over, the old ways are best.

    Now, get back to work you muppets.

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    I saw this on Sky News earlier. But I find it bizarre as Google has a reputation for extreme political correctness, diversity hiring etc.

    The idea of Google being hounded for sexual harrassment seems shocking, given their reputation for leftwing, equality culture.
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    and they said all the crazy campus stuff wouldnt affect the real world. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AyaanMyHero View Post
    Google employees walked out of multiple work sites today (including the Dublin site) demanding the following:





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    Points 1 and 4 are mutually exclusive. You can have equal opportunity or you can have a diversity officer but you can't have both.

    Point 3 is appalling. Anonymous denunciations are the stuff of police states and dystopias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    I saw this on Sky News earlier. But I find it bizarre as Google has a reputation for extreme political correctness, diversity hiring etc.

    The idea of Google being hounded for sexual harrassment seems shocking, given their reputation for leftwing, equality culture.
    They have a dark side. The former head of Search was left go due to such issues. He signed up with another company and neglected to explain why he left Google. The other company fired him. Google needs easily regimented people for most of its day to day operations. Valuable employees are valuable and it would probably want to hang on to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Points 1 and 4 are mutually exclusive. You can have equal opportunity or you can have a diversity officer but you can't have both.

    Point 3 is appalling. Anonymous denunciations are the stuff of police states and dystopias.
    But no, absolutely not, these would very largely be women making anonymous accusations against men, therefore and obviously abuse of such a system just couldn't arise.

    The very thought, do you not trust women or what's your problem. You're a man, aren't you?
    Go on, admit it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    They have a dark side. The former head of Search was left go due to such issues. He signed up with another company and neglected to explain why he left Google. The other company fired him. Google needs easily regimented people for most of its day to day operations. Valuable employees are valuable and it would probably want to hang on to them.
    They have a certain 'culture' in there which is quite weird. You have to be a 'Google person' to get hired there and that means buying into their culture of political correctness, diversity, pride and so on.

    For that reason, I tend to think they hire people who are more easily malleable from their point of view. They don't really like independent thinkers. You have to be a bit 'soy' to get into Google basically.

    NPC only hiring policy.
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    Is this a lifestyle choice or a job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    They have a certain 'culture' in there which is quite weird. You have to be a 'Google person' to get hired there and that means buying into their culture of political correctness, diversity, pride and so on.
    Yep. It is rather campus-like in many respects. It seems much like a playground for the types who would be made P.ie mods but they would be somewhat smarter.

    For that reason, I tend to think they hire people who are more easily malleable from their point of view. They don't really like independent thinkers. You have to be a bit 'soy' to get into Google basically.
    Some Google people are quite sound. A lot of things went badly wrong with Google over the years but this isn't really the thread for it. The key players in any company will be given a lot more leeway than some normal hire. Genius is rare. The kind of happy-clappy drone that can do the daily tasks is not. Third Level just churns them out. Buying off complainants is a lot cheaper than losing key players. It may sound cynical but that's how business works.
    Last edited by jmcc; 2nd November 2018 at 01:07 AM.
    Regards...jmcc

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