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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Common for Hispanics maybe.. but O'Rourke is a 100% white honkey. So why is he using a hispanic nickname, if not to try and pretend that he's latino.
    Why would you presume a white person of northern/western European birth or descent in a Hispanic environment be any less apt to pick up a Spanish (or Portuguese if amidst Brazilians) nickname? Take this Irishman for example:
    Alejandro O'Reilly, 1st Count of O'Reilly
    and his companion Colonel Tomás O'Daly for whom we can thank today for the lovely historical colonial fortresses and architecture of places like Havana, San Juan in Puerto Rico, and New Orleans. They weren't born and reared with those Spanish forenames...they were just nicknames via translating them. Same with William Brown, founder of the Argentinian navy, who went by Guillermo there.
    William Brown

    Beto was born and reared in El Paso, TX. El Paso is over 4/5 ethnic Hispanic, and it's also a border town across the Rio Grande from the Mexican city of Ciudad Juárez where people cross the border bridge every day between the two cities and share the news, radio, sports, etc. In fact, it was the site of the Chamizal border dispute between the US and Mexico that was finally settled in the 1970s with territorial adjustments.
    Chamizal dispute

    In short, he's not Hispanic himself, but he learnt the Spanish language and acquired a Hispanic nickname as a child given where's he from (a Hispanic area bordering Mexico). 'Beto' is just shorthand for anyone with first name ending in 'berto' in Spanish or 'bert' in English, e.g., Alberto/Albert, Roberto/Robert, etc, and since his first name is Robert, he picked up Beto.

    There's simply nothing wrong here with him having that nickname given those facts. I've seen people given Spanish nicknames for much less, e.g., an acquaintance from Belfast I once knew who went by the nickname 'Pablo' because his primary school mates stuck it on him because a teacher told him what his name was in Spanish and they liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    As the CNN guy said "Welcome to Florida".

    It would be a laugh if it eventually wound its way to the Supreme Court. Somehow, I doubt if a majority of the court would want to hear it. After 2000, they basically "We will never do this again"
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    Judge appears to have rejected GOP counties attempts to avoid counting some ballots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Common for Hispanics maybe.. but O'Rourke is a 100% white honkey. So why is he using a hispanic nickname, if not to try and pretend that he's latino.
    No one chooses their own nickname.

    Your nickname is laid on you, whether you like it or not.

    You must have had a quiet, private education of privilege not to know that.

    You must be really annoyed with that fake Ted Cruz, pretending to be a white guy, when he is really the sinister Eduardo Cruz, whose father killed JFK. He is even pretending he can't speak Spanish!


    Eduardo Cruz, at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    How Bill Nelson could ultimately win the recount in Florida's Senate race | Tampa Bay Times

    Marc Elias, the Democrats lawyer, is arguing that the "undervote" in a county, where over 30,000 fewer votes were cast for Senate than voted otherwise, is some sign of people who intended to vote for Nelson. I think thats a bit of a long shot and similar to the "hanging/dimple/pregnant chads" argument the Gore side used in 2000.

    However we dont know how many military ballots there are. They dont have to arrive until Nov 16, and traditionally they favour the GOP. Currently a 17,000 gap between both sides, so already in automatic recount territory, and if it goes within 0.25%, it legally has to be a hand recount.

    Popcorn.
    And wtf happened the 30,000 missing votes? This is mad stuff, 2000 all over again by the looks of it. Arizona also still not finalised either. What would this leave it at - 52/48?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midlander12 View Post
    And wtf happened the 30,000 missing votes? This is mad stuff, 2000 all over again by the looks of it. Arizona also still not finalised either. What would this leave it at - 52/48?
    Well if Arizona and Florida went Dem, then its 51 until the likely GOP win in the runoff in Mississippi on Nov 27, whereupon its 52. 53 would help overcome the awkward squad of Collins/Murkowski and probably Romney.

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    Update: looks like Rep. Peter King will narrowly hold on in NY-2.

    Long Island Rep. Peter King hangs on to House seat ” barely - NY Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Well if Arizona and Florida went Dem, then its 51 until the likely GOP win in the runoff in Mississippi on Nov 27, whereupon its 52. 53 would help overcome the awkward squad of Collins/Murkowski and probably Romney.

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    Update: looks like Rep. Peter King will narrowly hold on in NY-2.

    Long Island Rep. Peter King hangs on to House seat ” barely - NY Post
    I am assuming Mississippi will go GOP. New York-2 wasn't even on my radar to be honest. It was 62/38 last time so if it was close it must have been a big swing. King used to a big 'Ra head back in the day - Noraid and all that. Didn't know he was still around - he's GOP hardcore if memory serves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Yeah, imagine wanting to see every vote checked and counted (sure there's only 30,000 or so missing and maybe 200,000 not counted yet, nothing to see there). The cheek of him - you'd think he's just go away and accept defeat!

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