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    Default Bad day for a good guy with a gun (in the US of course)

    Here's an interesting story - someone started shooting at people in a shopping centre in Alabama, and several "good people with guns" drew their legally-held guns in response.

    The police turned up and one police officer mistook one of the "good people with guns" for the initial shooter and shot the good guy dead.

    This sorry situation would appear to support those who claim that when there is a shooting,"good people with guns" are more likely to make the situation more confusing rather than help stop the initial shooter.

    What do posters think of this situation?


    Alabama mall Thanksgiving shooting suspect arrested - BBC News

    "Police originally believed they had shot and killed the gunman at the scene of the Thanksgiving attack at the Riverchase Galleria mall in Hoover.

    However, they later admitted wrongly killing Emantic Bradford Jr, 21.

    Mr Bradford had "heightened the sense of threat" at the scene by drawing his gun after shots rang out, police said."
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    Alabama. Hmm. Mr Bradford - white or black? (I think we know the answer to that one without even clicking on the link)
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    That is one of the poblems of fighting gung law with guns and a problem of one of Trumps solutions of tackling school shootings by arming school sherifs

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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    Alabama. Hmm. Mr Bradford - white or black? (I think we know the answer to that one without even clicking on the link)
    Such a thing wouldn’t happen in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    Alabama. Hmm. Mr Bradford - white or black? (I think we know the answer to that one without even clicking on the link)
    Both the initial shooter (Mr Brown) and the good guy with a gun (Mr Bradford) were black.

    When it comes to black folks who do (or may) have guns, many US cops seem to act quickly before they have fully asessed and understood the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddyc View Post
    Such a thing wouldn’t happen in America.
    Yes - that security guard incident also comes to mind.

    Shoot first and then work out what the situation actually was.
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    They love their guns and we will always see this stuff unfortunately because of this love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post
    Here's an interesting story - someone started shooting at people in a shopping centre in Alabama, and several "good people with guns" drew their legally-held guns in response.

    The police turned up and one police officer mistook one of the "good people with guns" for the initial shooter and shot the good guy dead.

    This sorry situation would appear to support those who claim that when there is a shooting,"good people with guns" are more likely to make the situation more confusing rather than help stop the initial shooter.

    What do posters think of this situation?


    Alabama mall Thanksgiving shooting suspect arrested - BBC News

    "Police originally believed they had shot and killed the gunman at the scene of the Thanksgiving attack at the Riverchase Galleria mall in Hoover.

    However, they later admitted wrongly killing Emantic Bradford Jr, 21.

    Mr Bradford had "heightened the sense of threat" at the scene by drawing his gun after shots rang out, police said."
    Probably lucky the "good people with guns" did not shoot more of each other.
    "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    They love their guns and we will always see this stuff unfortunately because of this love.
    "They" being every nutcase, every unstable sexually frustrated incel, every vengeful husband, and every antisemitic crackpot.

    They love their guns, therefore it is our Constitutional duty to give them not one, not two, not three .... but as many automatic weapons and extra magazines they could possibly want, without checking their records or their mental health.

    This is good for nobody except people who sell guns.
    "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume

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    There is a demonstrated link between domestic violence and gun violence .... but every wife-beater should have as many guns as he wants ....

    Gun-Related Domestic Violence Calls Increased 74 Percent, New Report Finds - Broadly
    "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume

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