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    US life expectancy drops for second year in a row - CNN

    For two years we have been told America is booming, it is supposedly the richest country in history right now.
    But just look at this diabolical report.
    Just also look at where the malaise of poverty and early death is most rife, States that are consumed and addicted to Trump and his disgusting party.
    The seven lowest life expectancy states in America (Mississippi, West Virginia, Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma and Arkansas) are as close to making no difference to being Trump's top 7 States.
    Desperate people putting guns and religion ahead of their health, education and well being, and that ignorance being exploited expertly by Trump/GOP.


    This, for me at least, is an addiction, a disease, people believing that someone like Trump can better them, when all the evidence is showing is he is putting them further and further into poverty, while giving all the goodies to the already wealthy.

    The wealth gap worldwide is for me the greatest crime in history, but nowhere is this crime more obvious than the US, and nowhere is it more repulsive and treated with such ambivalence.

    But most of all ponder the following, how in the name of christ can the supposed strongest and wealthiest economy in the history of mankind have a decline in life expectancy in 2018?
    With the monstrous advances in technology, of wealth generation, of medicine, of vaccinations, of lack of wars, it is just obscene and it is immoral.

    America is eating itself alive.

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    Actually .... America is eating itself to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Walsh View Post
    US life expectancy drops for second year in a row - CNN

    For two years we have been told America is booming, it is supposedly the richest country in history right now.
    But just look at this diabolical report.
    Just also look at where the malaise of poverty and early death is most rife, States that are consumed and addicted to Trump and his disgusting party.
    The seven lowest life expectancy states in America (Mississippi, West Virginia, Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma and Arkansas) are as close to making no difference to being Trump's top 7 States.
    Desperate people putting guns and religion ahead of their health, education and well being, and that ignorance being exploited expertly by Trump/GOP.


    This, for me at least, is an addiction, a disease, people believing that someone like Trump can better them, when all the evidence is showing is he is putting them further and further into poverty, while giving all the goodies to the already wealthy.

    The wealth gap worldwide is for me the greatest crime in history, but nowhere is this crime more obvious than the US, and nowhere is it more repulsive and treated with such ambivalence.

    But most of all ponder the following, how in the name of christ can the supposed strongest and wealthiest economy in the history of mankind have a decline in life expectancy in 2018?
    With the monstrous advances in technology, of wealth generation, of medicine, of vaccinations, of lack of wars, it is just obscene and it is immoral.

    America is eating itself alive.
    Em, you do know who was Prez when this reduction in LE took place, don't ya? A 2 term Prez like.

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    I have seen these reports over the last few days about the horrible effects of the opioids, gun violence and suicide and the impact they have had on life expectancy in the US. It really is shocking stuff but that said I think the rumours of the demise of the United States are greatly exaggerated. These issues predate Trump and will succeed him too.

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    Lower income, single men seem to be making a disproportionate contribution to the trend and a host of unfavourable factors are affecting this group. Many have lost steady jobs and traditional roles, both in the household and society. Churches and associations are dying off and the extended family has largely disappeared. Social media just doesn't fill those gaps.
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    Trouble is that when a generation grows up with the idea that the American Dream is attainable (and it seemed to be attainable for their parents' generation) and the dream turns out to be dust for most then all sorts of problems can arise.

    In Ireland it was a high suicide rate particularly among young men when they felt cut off from the advertised attainments of the society around them.

    In the backwaters of the states mentioned above some will look for a new saviour (Hi Don), some will turn to oblivion (opioids etc).

    The good news is that as soon as expectations are lowered a newer more sensible generation will emerge with lower and more realistic expectations and I think that generation may be altogether nicer and more collected people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dizillusioned View Post
    Actually .... America is eating itself to death.
    eventually all empires do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    Trouble is that when a generation grows up with the idea that the American Dream is attainable (and it seemed to be attainable for their parents' generation) and the dream turns out to be dust for most then all sorts of problems can arise.

    In Ireland it was a high suicide rate particularly among young men when they felt cut off from the advertised attainments of the society around them.

    In the backwaters of the states mentioned above some will look for a new saviour (Hi Don), some will turn to oblivion (opioids etc).

    The good news is that as soon as expectations are lowered a newer more sensible generation will emerge with lower and more realistic expectations and I think that generation may be altogether nicer and more collected people.
    The good news is that as soon as expectations are lowered a newer more sensible generation will emerge with lower and more realistic expectations and I think that generation may be altogether nicer and more collected people.
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    bad medical advice around diet, medicine corrupted by pharma money and a profit led model which is anti lifestyle medicine. cure their obesity rates and life expectancy would go up. not sure what the Trump angle here is, the US went off the rails in the 70's regarding health
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    Trouble is that when a generation grows up with the idea that the American Dream is attainable (and it seemed to be attainable for their parents' generation) and the dream turns out to be dust for most then all sorts of problems can arise.

    In Ireland it was a high suicide rate particularly among young men when they felt cut off from the advertised attainments of the society around them.

    In the backwaters of the states mentioned above some will look for a new saviour (Hi Don), some will turn to oblivion (opioids etc).

    The good news is that as soon as expectations are lowered a newer more sensible generation will emerge with lower and more realistic expectations and I think that generation may be altogether nicer and more collected people.
    American expectations will NEVER be lowered. The whole culture is based on exapnisonism and growth and material aqquisition. Jimmy Carter tried to get Americans to be less aqquisitive and greedy and they voted for the neo liberal clown Regan in massive droves. The country was founded on hustling, the worship of private property and violence. Trump has just speeded up the decline. And the shine is coming off quick. Ireland is currently begging the US for 5,000 unused visas to be given to irish citizens instead of australians. The irish government think this is a great thing. Maybe they should be asking themselves why so many visas are being rejected by Aussies. In return, we are going to have to accept reams of old unhealthy americans who will put yet more strain on our health service. FG are utter muppets.

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