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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    A lot of UK maths teachers would find Irish teacher pay and the gold plated pensions and tax free lump sums very attractive.
    Not to talk about the job for life, regardless of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    A lot of UK maths teachers would find Irish teacher pay and the gold plated pensions and tax free lump sums very attractive.
    Pensions that require you to live to 94 years of age to get back the pension contributions made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    A lot of UK maths teachers would find Irish teacher pay and the gold plated pensions and tax free lump sums very attractive.
    Your OP concerned the use of contractors, not people changing careers or countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    Pensions that require you to live to 94 years of age to get back the pension contributions made.
    Bullsand!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatullusV View Post
    Your OP concerned the use of contractors, not people changing careers or countries.
    Contractors can cross borders in the EU.

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    Why do you need "advanced" math teachers to teach IC/LC mathematics? It's been dumbed down to Barney level since the 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    A lot of UK maths teachers would find Irish teacher pay and the gold plated pensions and tax free lump sums very attractive.
    Well if so why are they not here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calculusmadeeasy View Post
    Why do you need "advanced" math teachers to teach IC/LC mathematics? It's been dumbed down to Barney level since the 90s.
    Indeed, I totally agree. LC Higher Level could hardly be regarded as advanced maths? Regardless, is there a scarcity of teachers who're capable of teaching it to Higher LC? Where's Pat getting this idea of a scarcity from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester Jim View Post
    Well if so why are they not here?
    Probably because they'd have to compete with Irish applicants who already know the system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reg11 View Post
    Indeed, I totally agree. LC Higher Level could hardly be regarded as advanced maths? Regardless, is there a scarcity of teachers who're capable of teaching it to Higher LC? Where's Pat getting this idea of a scarcity from?
    I don't know. This issue has been discussed ad nauseam. There are several threads discussing it replete with comparisons between contemporary LC Maths (Higher) and ye olde syllabus. Most posters agreed that the maths curriculum has been dumbed down significantly since the early 90s, so hiring "advanced" teachers on a contract basis is not going to register a difference if the course content doesn't include "advanced" maths.

    By "advanced" I assume that Pat means what used to be called Higher Arithmetic. You'd have to hire Indiana Jones to explore the DOE vaults to find text books with that content (1970s - 1993).

    I think the biggest issues with the old syllabus were three fold (1) The course was abstract (2) The advent of Computers has nullified the need to study Linear Algebra and Higher Calculus (3) Liberals want a "everyone's a winner" curriculum.
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