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Thread: "Gardai aiding and abetting evictions" Gardai disgrace themselves again

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    Quote Originally Posted by BACKTOBASICS View Post
    As I said previously, the banks were due to default on their debts to the European Central Bank in September, 2008, and Brian Lenehan and the politicians rushed in to save them defaulting (they had to, or we would lose our savings and the cash machines will have no money) and made the Irish taxpayer pay to the tune of €70 billions (and with interest etc over €100 billion) for their financial over- stretching.
    Why did they save the banks to the cost of the Irish taxpayer (leave out the part where they had to) and it is a different scenario with ordinary people/farmers who get into trouble - who bails them out?
    Is there really a difference to both situations.
    Ordinary bank customers have their deposits insured by a guarantee scheme, currently covering up to €100k per person. The Irish government could have nationalised just the retail banking parts of the system and let the bond-holders get hit. Life could have carried on for most people without any effect, and it would only have been institutional investors who would've been hit. And hit for making bad investment decisions by putting their money in high risk Irish banks.

    These people who were evicted have a very long track record of "getting into trouble" - whether through ignorance or malice. Why should they be bailed out? And at the expense of Belgian KBC bank who had no involvement in the Irish banking collapse or guarantee fiasco in 2008?

    “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” Aldous Huxley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buchaill Dana View Post
    Thats VERY different to what you claimed
    Really, Activists waiting on the property, What were they there for. were they all going to hold a camera. One very lodicial explanation, they were there to stop the eviction just as the retired garda tried to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddyc View Post
    Yes he or she can.
    Well, there you go - farmers go limited and like any other company in a business reduce your risk of your farm being seized and kicked out of your house and off your land, if the farming goes belly up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddyc View Post
    Yes he or she can.
    Unlike many industries a farmer won't get a loan without putting up his land and / or his home as collateral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAGE61 View Post
    If you break this down to

    Elderly people evicted forcefully from home.
    Elderly persons assaulted in plain view of the Garda

    Nothing done

    Vigilante group visit farm and attack those who did this?

    Yes it was a heavy handed attack on the Security guards ...but as I said in another post. martin the Vyper Foley was also running a security service so that goes to show what a "Security" service can look like
    They were not elderly, 2 mid 50's, the other one early 60's. i am 54 and i don't think i am elderly

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    Quote Originally Posted by BACKTOBASICS View Post
    Well, there you go - farmers go limited and like any other company in a business reduce your risk of your farm being seized and kicked out of your house and off your land, if the farming goes belly up.
    Of course, any assets a company might have (such as farmland or machinery) could be seized and sold in order to pay any creditors.

    And if a director is trading fraudulently or while insolvent, they can still be held personally liable for debts that liability from a company structure would normally limit.

    “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” Aldous Huxley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eventualities View Post
    Ben Gilroy is no yellow-vest, and if DDI is anything to go by, he's no hero. A man looking to mainstream fascism in Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'orebel View Post
    What a scumbag is Varadkar. FG are the party in government and as such bear responsibility for state sanctioned violence in evictions (which they and FF fully support). SF have NOTHING to do with this violence on either side. But FG have a lot of responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'orebel View Post
    Typical immature Varadkar.
    Plotting the witchcraft with my cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greener View Post
    You do know in all likelihood that is what happened.
    I really, really don't

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