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    Pompeo is alluding to two different things there.

    First up is a rant against Iran, which he considers Obama was soft on. This is not a military threat, its all about the sanctions and the nuclear agreement. Trump obviously takes a different line to Obama (and the EU) in these matters. But Trumps line is popular in the sunni dominated countries to the south of Iran. The very ones that were also hoping to overthrow Assad in Syria.

    Second up is a rant against IS. This one is a military matter. Trump said in his election campaign that the US needed to get boots on the ground in Syria and destroy IS, and then get out afterwards. Trump is the only leader I know who actually tries to deliver on his election pledges. We can say he has delivered on this one now.
    Obama funded various rebel groups, but never had a decisive strategy in Syria.
    Again, Trumps strategy is favoured in the region because nobody really liked IS. Even the sunni countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia feared them because they threatened the established order in the region. They were anti-monarchy and anti-secular republic. They would have overturned the governments of Turkey and S.A. if they could have. But at the same time they were being used by these governments against Assad.
    Now everyone in the region realises that the game is over, and Assad has won. They want to forgive and forget, and pretend that they didn't try to kill him. But Assad will remember his friends; the Iranians and the Russians.

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    941. Payment to Russia for hacking in US election (1/4/2017)

    Of course, Russia won't do it for free. There must be a secret deal between the intelligence of the two countries. We outsiders can only see it from some facts.

    The secret deal: Hacked email were handed to Wikileaks to issue to hit Hillary Clinton.

    The payment of secret deal:

    1. Aleppo falls (or "liberated" from Russia side) on 12/15. Resistance and civil withdraw from East Aleppo by bus. Five years fight ends. A big victory for Russia and its allies.

    2. Economic interest.

    Japan pledges 300 bil. yen economic package at Abe-Putin summit

    December 17, 2016

    The total value of Japan's contribution in investment and loans, including through agreements between private sector firms, is around 300 billion yen ($2.54 billion), Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Kotaro Nogami said after the leaders' summit.

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    Putin dismissed the notion that he was only interested in getting economic benefits from Japan.

    "If anyone thinks we’re interested only in developing economic links and a peace deal is of secondary importance, that’s not the case," he told the same news conference. That's all for the controversial islands. He went Japan just for those business deals.


    You may say that's something between Russia and Japan. The Truth is Japan is the pocket slave of the US. If you still remember Trump claims credit for $50 billion investment by Japanese firm and 7 billion from a Taiwan firm. They were puppet nations that have to pay their defense share that Trump demands. Include that payment to Russia for the US sake.

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    Netanyahu looking for a farewell present from the U.S., the arrogance of it all and the EU and white settler countries would remain silent.

    The Latest: Israel calls on US to recognize rule over Golan - The Washington Post

    Israel has no borders in its attempt to control neighbouring countries:

    PressTV-Israel finally admits supplying arms to militants in Syria
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    US soldiers and civilians died in opportunistic ISIL attack in Manbij, half-hearted policy - we are leaving but not yet encourages such attacks:

    US Soldiers Killed in IS-Claimed Syria Blast
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    Quote Originally Posted by middleground View Post
    US soldiers and civilians died in opportunistic ISIL attack in Manbij, half-hearted policy - we are leaving but not yet encourages such attacks:

    US Soldiers Killed in IS-Claimed Syria Blast

    But Trump said that ISIL had been defeated.
    satisfied with frugal comfort

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    The Israel - Iran showdown in Syria may be starting.


    Israel confirms attacking Iranian forces in Syria:
    Until now Israel has largely refrained from public admissions of its covert military operations in neighboring Syria.


    How much is Israel being backed by the US in this? It could be the next big Middle East War.

    Not good news for Syria, or for Russia.
    Last edited by owedtojoy; Yesterday at 12:31 AM. Reason: First sentence said "Iraq", a typo, intended Iran
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    As I said above, Trump has no plan, just impulses .... Syria is no different ....

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    Top U.S. Envoy Brett McGurk: We Do Not Have a Plan For Leaving Syria

    MxGurk was the US Envoy to the Coalition to Defeat ISIS. He resigned rather than participate in the clusterf**k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owedtojoy View Post
    The Israel - Iraq showdown in Syria may be starting.


    Israel confirms attacking Iranian forces in Syria:
    Until now Israel has largely refrained from public admissions of its covert military operations in neighboring Syria.


    How much is Israel being backed by the US in this? It could be the next big Middle East War.

    Not good news for Syria, or for Russia.
    Iraq?

    Israel won't put boots on the ground and they seem scared of using planes in Syrian airspace?
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    Quote Originally Posted by middleground View Post
    Israel won't put boots on the ground and they seem scared of using planes in Syrian airspace?
    You can see from the Israeli video of the strike (the second strike in the vid) that its not the feared S-400 missile.
    Looks like maybe an old Greyhound type, or else some Iranian version of that.
    Putin is in control of which areas are protected by the S-400s, which are therefore immune to Israeli air attack.
    If those protected areas are expanding, then Israel will want to loudly publicise the attacks it can still make in the more outlying areas. Just to show the world they can still rule the skies in the region.

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