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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    They are not. They have full rights just like other citizens.
    You are some clown- there are forty or so laws on the books legally discriminating against them and that is before we get into other kinds of discrimination. You know that the Israeli state never gives them planning permission to build and has built no housing for them since the state's foundation? You know that they are barred from owning land in most of the country? Seriously!
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    I certainly do give a damn about our travelers. Just as I care for the Palestinians. And yes, I do find the hypocrisy sickening that many Irish so attack them while in the same breath wailing about the Palestinians etc.

    Of course, it's a fake concern for the Palestinians. You are really just using them to attack Israel.

    Because you never protest say Arab countries rejecting treaties to give the Palestinians their own state, or their keeping the Palestinians in refugee camps, or refusing to resettle any of them in their own countries, turning them into cheap and defenseless labor etc.

    Or you never protest say Hamas rockets or other attacks that spur inevitable Israeli reprisals.

    And you are obviously keen for more and more weapons getting into the hands of Hamas and other extremist groups that glorify death and martyrdom, judging from a number of noises you make say about the blockade on Gaza put in place for that purpose, etc. Weapons that will inevitably kill the sons and husbands that carry them.

    You don't seem bothered say about Palestinian children being indoctrinated and enacted to carry out knife attacks on Jews. Or Palestinians losing jobs, pay, pension and security through BDS targeting their employers.

    And so on and on. You're just a typical ideologue espousing violence for other people and thinking yourself a "freedom fighter" for the benefit of your own ego.

    Stupid hypocrite. Peasant. Get a life, or at least go back to your little coterie of like-minded on politicalirish.com, Ratio. Get out of our faces you verminous piece of sh1t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golah veNekhar View Post
    You are some clown- there are forty or so laws on the books legally discriminating against them and that is before we get into other kinds of discrimination. You know that the Israeli state never gives them planning permission to build and has built no housing for them since the state's foundation? You know that they are barred from owning land in most of the country? Seriously!
    At the risk of lowering myself to discuss anything with a swivel eyed bigot can you give me examples of these "forty or so" laws? That last underlined part is false and you probably as is your bigoted wont know this. Land in Israel is almost all owned by the state a legacy of Ottoman times.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedfreak View Post
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    Of course, it's a fake concern for the Palestinians. You are really just using them to attack Israel.

    Because you never protest say Arab countries rejecting treaties to give the Palestinians their own state, or their keeping the Palestinians in refugee camps, or refusing to resettle any of them in their own countries, turning them into cheap and defenseless labor etc.

    Or you never protest say Hamas rockets or other attacks that spur inevitable Israeli reprisals.

    And you are obviously keen for more and more weapons getting into the hands of Hamas and other extremist groups that glorify death and martyrdom, judging from a number of noises you make say about the blockade on Gaza put in place for that purpose, etc. Weapons that will inevitably kill the sons and husbands that carry them.

    You don't seem bothered say about Palestinian children being indoctrinated and enacted to carry out knife attacks on Jews. Or Palestinians losing jobs, pay, pension and security through BDS targeting their employers.

    You're just a typical ideologue espousing violence for other people and thinking yourself a "freedom fighter" for the benefit of your own ego.

    Stupid hypocrite. Get a life, or at least go back to your little coterie of like-minded on politicalirish.com, Ratio. Get out of our faces you verminous piece of sh1t.
    Bravo! That poster is an anti-Semitic bigot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    At the risk of lowering myself to discuss anything with a swivel eyed bigot can you give me examples of these "forty or so" laws? That last underlined part is false and you probably as is your bigoted wont know this. Land in Israel is almost all owned by the state a legacy of Ottoman times.
    It is not false- and no it is not a legacy of Ottoman times but the Socialist ideals Israel started out with, the state will not lease land to Arab Israelis like it does to Jews even those fresh of the plane. The Israeli State prevents Arab Israelis from building houses and does not build housing for them. This is one of the core issues in Israel.

    https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/7771
    In Jerusalem, I dressed my wounds and breathed my sorrows
    And carried the soul in my palm, For an Arab Palestine.

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    "... While often repeated, these assertions are based on misconception, error and outright invention. In fact, most of the land in Israel is government-owned, and it is equally available to all Israelis, whether Jewish or Arab..."

    Can Arabs Buy Land in Israel? :: Middle East Quarterly

    Note that out of a total population of 9 million citizens, there are over 1.5 million Arab citizens in Israel (Muslim and Christian), living in their own homes on their own land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedfreak View Post
    I certainly do give a damn about our travelers. Just as I care for the Palestinians. And yes, I do find the hypocrisy sickening that many Irish so attack them while in the same breath wailing about the Palestinians etc.

    Of course, it's a fake concern for the Palestinians. You are really just using them to attack Israel.

    Because you never protest say Arab countries rejecting treaties to give the Palestinians their own state, or their keeping the Palestinians in refugee camps, or refusing to resettle any of them in their own countries, turning them into cheap and defenseless labor etc.

    Or you never protest say Hamas rockets or other attacks that spur inevitable Israeli reprisals.

    And you are obviously keen for more and more weapons getting into the hands of Hamas and other extremist groups that glorify death and martyrdom, judging from a number of noises you make say about the blockade on Gaza put in place for that purpose, etc. Weapons that will inevitably kill the sons and husbands that carry them.

    You don't seem bothered say about Palestinian children being indoctrinated and enacted to carry out knife attacks on Jews. Or Palestinians losing jobs, pay, pension and security through BDS targeting their employers.

    And so on and on. You're just a typical ideologue espousing violence for other people and thinking yourself a "freedom fighter" for the benefit of your own ego.

    Stupid hypocrite. Peasant. Get a life, or at least go back to your little coterie of like-minded on politicalirish.com, Ratio. Get out of our faces you verminous piece of sh1t.
    The UN has ruled that the Palestinians thrown out in the first Nabka should be allowed to return- they are Israel's problem, and not any other country's. Indoctrinated? Come on, given how the Jewish colonists have behaved in Palestine as even your hero Ahad Ha'am who was himself a nasty Jewish supremacist admitted the fact that so many Palestinians do not hate Jews is really such a testimony to them- of course this is the thing, hatred distorts and warps you, allowing yourself to feel hatred is not good for you, this is why Christ said we should love of our enemies, and this is why Rabbinic Judaism which says we should hate them often has such a terrible effect on people. You being a case in point.

    Yes Hamas do glorify heroic courage and self-sacrifice- and quite right to. That is something that most normal people do. Welcome to humanity. I have said though that at this stage that violence from the indigenous Palestinians is counter-productive however it is not for me to give them lectures. The goal of Zionism is to completely psychologically break them- turn them into basically inwardly dead walking zombies. It is often the fear of that which leads indigenous Palestinians into violence, the urge to if not even up the score at least restore some dignity.

    I do care about Jews being indoctrinated to hate and fear non-Jews in the schools in Israel. Do you? I care about the erasure of Judaeo-Arabic history and culture in Israel. Do you? I care about the Jewish children and survivors of Hitler's camps in Israel going starving. Do you? A third of the survivors of Hitler's camps in the United States are living below the poverty line but wealthy Jews much prefer to fund vanity Zionist schemes such as the Birthright Project and "Israel" advocacy. And lets not mention the horrific treatment of Jewish survivors of Hitler's camps in the Jewish State.

    Look I am sure you support sanctions on Iran so there goes your argument against BDS. The fact is that BDS as Gideon Levy has said is the only hope. It is the only thing that at this stage can at least stop the whole mess from getting so much worse.

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/392...id-group-says/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedfreak View Post
    "... While often repeated, these assertions are based on misconception, error and outright invention. In fact, most of the land in Israel is government-owned, and it is equally available to all Israelis, whether Jewish or Arab..."

    Can Arabs Buy Land in Israel? :: Middle East Quarterly

    Note that out of a total population of 9 million citizens, there are over 1.5 million Arab citizens in Israel (Muslim and Christian), living in their own homes on their own land.
    "But there is another urgent necessity for an official definition of who is, and who is not "Jewish." The State of Israel officially discriminates in favour of Jews and against non-Jews in many domains of life, of which I regard three as being most important: residency rights, the right to work and the right to equality before the law. Discrimination in residency is based on the fact that about 92 per cent of Israel's land is the property of the state and is administered by the Israel Land Authority according to regulations issued by the Jewish National Fund (JNF), an affiliate of the World Zionist Organization. In its regualtions the JNF denies the right to reside, to open a business, and often to work, to anyone who is not Jewish, only because he is not Jewish. At the same time, Jews are not prohibited from taking residence or opening businesses anywhere in Israel. If applied in another state against the Jews, such discriminatory practice would instantly and justifiably be labelled antisemitism and would no doubt spark massive public protests. When applied by Israel as a part of its "Jewish ideology," they are usually studiously ignored or excused when rarely mentioned."

    That is from one of the most important books written about the conflict, written by a Shoah survivor and Professor of Chemistry at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. The land is not equally available. You obviously have never been to an Arab Israeli town and seen the over crowding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    They are not. They have full rights just like other citizens.
    Seems like none of you hasbara trolls can stop lying for the Apartheid regime.....they have over 50 laws that discriminate against Palestinians.
    The same Equal/Full rights for Palestinians just like israelis? What a laugh.....any proof and links?
    "You think thats bad,theres one lunatic that posts on there 40-50 times a day..He's alone..in bad company!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golah veNekhar View Post
    It is not false- and no it is not a legacy of Ottoman times but the Socialist ideals Israel started out with, the state will not lease land to Arab Israelis like it does to Jews even those fresh of the plane. The Israeli State prevents Arab Israelis from building houses and does not build housing for them. This is one of the core issues in Israel.

    https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/7771
    Any word on those forty laws? No? Thought not.


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