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    Quote Originally Posted by mangaire1 View Post
    I often hear reference to 'Trots' - I expect 'Trots' (SP ?) operate according to the Gospel of Trotsky ?
    & perhaps some other faction bow down to Stalin or Lenin or whatever ?

    amazing that they support the Zionists against the Palestinians - hadn't known that.
    I had known though that some of them at least were very anti Irish Republicanism & supportive of British rule in the Six Counties.

    the first looney left guy that I recall was ol Jim Kemmy..
    when I was a child we used to go to Limerick every few weeks or so, & remember this bloke, every Saturday , he would be standing outside this shop in O'Connell St. - I think it was Todds, holding up some British tabloid Socialist newspaper.
    he was a forlorn figure - I don't think I ever saw anyone buying a paper from him.

    apparently he later started off his own Socialist Party, as Socialists tend to do - DSP I think.
    & had some success - got elected to the Dáil.
    he used often appear on Radio/TV - he became popular with the Dublin media, in the way the Healy Raes are nowadays, due I think to his 'country'/working class accent,
    & like the Healy Raes, he played along with the D4 crowd, to his own advantage.

    his DSP got nowhere, & he threw in the towel & joined Labour,
    & went into coalition with FG.
    now these were the days of Cooney & Donegan, Cruise O'Brien, Section 31, the Heavy Gang …..
    & our great champion of the underdog, Kemmy, had no problem at all, at all, with any of that.
    he got on famously with the Blueshirts.

    shortly after the abolishment of Section 31 in 1994, ol Gay Byrne organised a 'debate' with Gerry Adams alone, on one side, & Michael MacDowell, Hugh Leonard, Austin Curry & our Kemmy geezer on the other side,
    & Byrne himself as partial - sorry impartial LOL !!!!!! referee.

    unfortunately for Byrne (I think he had six uncles or something, in the British Army) his carefully laid plan, backfired spectacularly - Adams turned the table on him, & more than held his own with his adversaries including Byrne,
    & amazingly for the time, he succeeded in swinging a large proportion of the LL audience to his side.

    the ……. ahem ……… 'debate' is up on YouTube, & it's worth watching.
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    SF/IRA supported the Zionists.


    Irish nationalism and Zionism | The Irish Story


    In the UK it was Labour who initially supported the Zionists.


    The Labour Party, anti-Semitism and Zionism International Socialism


    The left supported Zionism for a long time.

    Gay Byrne father fought in the war of Independence.

    SF won only a single seat in 1997.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBP voter View Post
    SF/IRA supported the Zionists.


    Irish nationalism and Zionism | The Irish Story


    In the UK it was Labour who initially supported the Zionists.


    The Labour Party, anti-Semitism and Zionism International Socialism


    The left supported Zionism for a long time.

    Gay Byrne father fought in the war of Independence.

    SF won only a single seat in 1997.
    What has Gay Byrne's father got to do with this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBP voter View Post
    SF/IRA supported the Zionists.


    Irish nationalism and Zionism | The Irish Story


    In the UK it was Labour who initially supported the Zionists.


    The Labour Party, anti-Semitism and Zionism International Socialism


    The left supported Zionism for a long time.

    Gay Byrne father fought in the war of Independence.

    SF won only a single seat in 1997.
    I think you'll find SF/IRA supported the Palestinian people for many decades and still do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    Well I'm sure that PBP would state they called for transfers while you lot didn't. But instead of putting class first which you claim to do, both Trots cancelled each other out to allow Finan McGrath get the seat to prop up the FG govt, great help that for the working class MW.
    here's Michael O'Briens leaflet with a sample ballot that highlights a number 2 for John Lyons
    Leaflet with sample ballot from Michael OBrien -AAAPBP -Dublin Bay North #ge16 | Irish Election Literature

    and these are John Lyons' 2 leafets with no explicit call for a vote for AAA Leaflet from John Lyons -People Before Profit -Dublin Bay North #ge16 | Irish Election Literature Leaflet from John Lyons AAAPBP -Dublin Bay North #ge16 | Irish Election Literature
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    Quote Originally Posted by mangaire1 View Post
    I often hear reference to 'Trots' - I expect 'Trots' (SP ?) operate according to the Gospel of Trotsky ?
    & perhaps some other faction bow down to Stalin or Lenin or whatever ?

    amazing that they support the Zionists against the Palestinians - hadn't known that.
    I had known though that some of them at least were very anti Irish Republicanism & supportive of British rule in the Six Counties.

    the first looney left guy that I recall was ol Jim Kemmy..
    when I was a child we used to go to Limerick every few weeks or so, & remember this bloke, every Saturday , he would be standing outside this shop in O'Connell St. - I think it was Todds, holding up some British tabloid Socialist newspaper.
    he was a forlorn figure - I don't think I ever saw anyone buying a paper from him.

    apparently he later started off his own Socialist Party, as Socialists tend to do - DSP I think.
    & had some success - got elected to the Dáil.
    he used often appear on Radio/TV - he became popular with the Dublin media, in the way the Healy Raes are nowadays, due I think to his 'country'/working class accent,
    & like the Healy Raes, he played along with the D4 crowd, to his own advantage.

    his DSP got nowhere, & he threw in the towel & joined Labour,
    & went into coalition with FG.
    now these were the days of Cooney & Donegan, Cruise O'Brien, Section 31, the Heavy Gang …..
    & our great champion of the underdog, Kemmy, had no problem at all, at all, with any of that.
    he got on famously with the Blueshirts.

    shortly after the abolishment of Section 31 in 1994, ol Gay Byrne organised a 'debate' with Gerry Adams alone, on one side, & Michael MacDowell, Hugh Leonard, Austin Curry & our Kemmy geezer on the other side,
    & Byrne himself as partial - sorry impartial LOL !!!!!! referee.

    unfortunately for Byrne (I think he had six uncles or something, in the British Army) his carefully laid plan, backfired spectacularly - Adams turned the table on him, & more than held his own with his adversaries including Byrne,
    & amazingly for the time, he succeeded in swinging a large proportion of the LL audience to his side.

    the ……. ahem ……… 'debate' is up on YouTube, & it's worth watching.
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    Lies must be called out,Kemmy never sold a tabloid british newspaper on the streets of Limerick.What he was selling was the excellent Limerick Socialist,written and printed in Limerick.

    You may have told the lies out of ignorance and i expect you will delete them and try to be more factual in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymmek View Post
    Lies must be called out,Kemmy never sold a tabloid british newspaper on the streets of Limerick.What he was selling was the excellent Limerick Socialist,written and printed in Limerick.

    You may have told the lies out of ignorance and i expect you will delete them and try to be more factual in future.
    You do know that 'mangaire' means ymmek - don't you?
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