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    Have been , worked and played in more places and situations than the average joe. Somalia , Pakistan, DRC All over Africa, Middle East etc, and even a short job in South America. So no waltering required..
    As regards Liberia it might be useful for you to read some independent reports on the performance of UNMIL and the various contingents, Irish and Swedish QRF highly respected and admired for their professionalism and fairness, Fact...

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmullah View Post
    Have been , worked and played in more places and situations than the average joe. Somalia , Pakistan, DRC All over Africa, Middle East etc, and even a short job in South America. So no waltering required..
    As regards Liberia it might be useful for you to read some independent reports on the performance of UNMIL and the various contingents, Irish and Swedish QRF highly respected and admired for their professionalism and fairness, Fact...
    I hear you , I can see the Irish as been professional and fair thats not the problem , if the ************************ hits the fan they have no experience and are way underarmed , at least send them in with the right tools , as they say, rather have them and not need them to needing them and not having them , never take a chance on the well being of young Irish men and women .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranberry1 View Post
    I they have no experience and are way underarmed , at least send them in with the right tools , as they say..
    The Irish army is small but very professional. The Ranger wing in particular is modelled on the US Army Rangers and is among the best in the world.
    However the best protection our troops had in the past was the blue paint of UN helmets,and the white paint on UN vehicles. That made it clear to all belligerents that they were NOT involved in the conflict. They were peacekeepers.
    In this current scenario, and despite the lies coming from the Taoiseach, they are not peacekeepers.
    They are belligerents, being part of an EU army of occupation which is in the Sahel to support French post-colonial interests in the region and the French army's own operation.
    That is a completely different ball game to a UN mission, because it makes the Irish troops legitimate targets for the rebels.

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    The son of two Indians has sold Irish neutrality down the river.

    Collins, Dev, Griffith are rolling in their graves thanks to this homosexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by recedite View Post
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    In this current scenario, and despite the lies coming from the Taoiseach, they are not peacekeepers.
    They are belligerents, being part of an EU army of occupation which is in the Sahel to support French post-colonial interests in the region and the French army's own operation.
    That is a completely different ball game to a UN mission, because it makes the Irish troops legitimate targets for the rebels.

    The french will support dictators that they have done deals with, but we should not get involved in this. As the colonial power they have used one ethnic group against another. Plus if this island is ever invaded, what use will desert training be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by McTell View Post
    The french will support dictators that they have done deals with, but we should not get involved in this. As the colonial power they have used one ethnic group against another. Plus if this island is ever invaded, what use will desert training be?
    None of this makes any sense, nor will benefit the citizens or tax payers - but all those shots of Varadkar hopping on and off helicopters will go down well when he's looking to get onto the security council - it's all @campaignforleo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    The son of two Indians has sold Irish neutrality down the river.

    Collins, Dev, Griffith are rolling in their graves thanks to this homosexual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranberry1 View Post
    I hear you , I can see the Irish as been professional and fair thats not the problem , if the ************************ hits the fan they have no experience and are way underarmed , at least send them in with the right tools , as they say, rather have them and not need them to needing them and not having them , never take a chance on the well being of young Irish men and women .
    In the case of Liberia they were not under armed and had the capacity to deal with anything that would have been thrown against them. It is amazing that they were able to maintain and use ancient AML 90s on that mission.
    I think that there were several incidents where they had to use force , but I was not there at that time.
    When push comes to shove its drills and discipline that kicks in and anytime the Irish have had to face and/or return fire they did so.
    I do agree that politics and the entire UN peacekeeping role is fraught with political interference and decisions are made by diplomats , politicians that unnecessarily endanger peacekeeping troops . The Lebanon is a case in point where UN policy made in New York required troops to maintain a presence in an area not under their control. In effect hostages.
    The other danger re long UN missions such as Leb is that contributing countries become complacent , see it as their raison d’ etre rather than as a closing with and killing the enemy, whoever that may be.

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    Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio of the Italian govt. has issued a damning indictment of French neo-colonisation in the Sahel region.
    “If we have people who are leaving Africa now it’s because some European countries, and France in particular, have never stopped colonizing Africa,” said Di Maio, who leads the 5-Star.

    “If France didn’t have its African colonies, because that’s what they should be called, it would be the 15th largest world economy. Instead it’s among the first, exactly because of what it is doing in Africa.”
    France controls the money.
    France was manipulating the economies of 14 African countries that use the CFA franc — a colonial-era currency which is underpinned by the French Treasury.
    “France is one of those countries that by printing money for 14 African states prevents their economic development and contributes to the fact that the refugees leave and then die in the sea or arrive on our coasts,” he said.

    France argues that the CFA franc has brought welcome monetary "stability" to the countries that use it...
    This has prompted an angry response from the French.

    When Col. Gadaffi tried to set up a new currency for Africa, a gold Dinar, Nato bombed his house and killed his grandchildren.
    I'm glad we took no part in that. We were a proudly independent and neutral country back then.

    Gaddafis Gold Dinar Currency Prompted NATO Invasion of Libya - YouTube

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