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    Quote Originally Posted by recedite View Post
    Defined Benefit?

    It makes no difference to me, as a European, which warlord is in control of some rebel region in some sub-saharan desert country. I presume you're suggesting that Islamists need to be kept under control?
    But IMO if the people are Muslims, and they want Islamist rule, what right have we to interfere?
    In any case, interventionist policies have a disastrous record. Libya, Syria, Iraq... all were ticking along quite nicely before the foreign military interventions.

    Or maybe you mean the blacklads are not capable of governing themeselves? Do they need whitey to steer and guide them?

    Libya was probably the worst intervention from Europe's point of view. The destruction of Libya set off a chain reaction that affected other nearby countries, and also allowed a massive people-trafficking operation to be set up in the dysfunctional remains of Libya, which sent hundreds of thousands of migrants across the Med.

    The French of course were leading the charge.
    Regime change, but to what? To death and chaos and rampant jihadism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post
    Think again.
    Was it one of the other referendums then - Lisbon perhaps? Unfortunately, your scant reply does little by way of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recedite View Post
    Defined Benefit?

    It makes no difference to me, as a European, which warlord is in control of some rebel region in some sub-saharan desert country. I presume you're suggesting that Islamists need to be kept under control?
    But IMO if the people are Muslims, and they want Islamist rule, what right have we to interfere?
    In any case, interventionist policies have a disastrous record.
    Libya, Syria, Iraq... all were ticking along quite nicely before the foreign military interventions.
    Or maybe you mean the blacklads are not capable of governing themeselves? Do they need whitey to steer and guide them?

    Libya was probably the worst intervention from Europe's point of view. The destruction of Libya set off a chain reaction that affected other nearby countries, and also allowed a massive people-trafficking operation to be set up in the dysfunctional remains of Libya, which sent hundreds of thousands of migrants across the Med.

    The French of course were leading the charge.
    Regime change, but to what? To death and chaos and rampant jihadism.
    How would you know that ?
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    Varadkar is a bit like robinson, already with the eye on the next job either EU or UN. He is content to wreck our country with mass immigration and globalisation and use our troops to prove his credentials on the world stage.

    Scumbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TweetyBird View Post
    From Wikipedia, there are 18 EU and 4 non EU nations involved. Their purpose is training and advice to restore order to Mali since 2013. Further details here which of course contradict the fact free EU army rant of the OPs fake news. EUTM (Mali) | Current Missions | Overseas | Defence Forces
    When the US organises a mission to "restore order" (regime change) to places like Iraq or Afghanistan it will usually invite along a few others to give it the impression of an "international coalition". Georgia usually volunteers for these, because it is desperate to move away from the Russian sphere of influence and into the EU and Nato sphere. Also its military is funded by the US.
    So just because the likes of Georgia and Albania were invited along does not make this an international coalition.

    This is a mission conceived in Brussels, at the behest of the French, which follows along similar lines to what the French army has been doing solo in the region for many decades. Controlling which warlords are in power in the French sphere of influence.
    It is NOT a UN blue helmet peacekeeping mission, of the type Irish troops used to get involved in, when we were a neutral country.
    These activities in the French controlled Sahel region are not any of our business.

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    UNSC 2071. That's their mandate.
    "What Michael Collins accepted in '22,De Valera accepted in'27 and Gerry Adams accepted in '98.Sooner or later they all come around to accepting the Treaty"

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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    UNSC 2071. That's their mandate.
    Dont bring facts into it. Only Irexit can fix this. Whatever tbis is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buchaill Dana View Post
    Dont bring facts into it. Only Irexit can fix this. Whatever tbis is.
    And as noted in the exit plans, Irexit would remove Ireland's interest in a stable North Africa because it'll move the island more to the left of the ocean, thus making it safe from fleeing asylum seekers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    UNSC 2071. That's their mandate.
    Liar

    UN Security Council
    Resolution 2071

    United Nations Security Council Resolution 2071 was unanimously adopted on 12 October 2012.[1] It related to the 2012 Northern Mali conflict and mandated that an actionable plan for military intervention be made by ECOWAS and the African Union within 45 days

    or have we joined the Economic Union of West Africa too ?
    Is there any Incompetence Scandal or Corruption that would actually make the Irish electorate wake up ....It seems not, so screw em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buchaill Dana View Post
    Dont bring facts into it. Only Irexit can fix this. Whatever tbis is.
    Facts clearly being things you and Sync politically agree with , rather than actual "Facts" FFS!
    Is there any Incompetence Scandal or Corruption that would actually make the Irish electorate wake up ....It seems not, so screw em

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