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10,000 saved by our Navy in 1 year: Now we must provide housing and welfare.

Hans Von Horn

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The Irish Navy's rescue mission in the Med has saved over 10,000 people from the Sea, in just over a year since May 2015. The operation seems to be growing more efficient by way of conducting the rescues nearer and nearer to the North African Coast.

It is inevitable that 10,000 people will end up taking refuge in Ireland, and that their near relatives will join them in the safe haven of Ireland, in early course. It is obvious too that more housing will be needed and that this must pose some challenges by way of merely building the necessary units let alone financing them.

The Government must move to quickly determine how many near relatives will be likely to join those fished from the sea. Government must also consider the likely outturn of rescued persons that will arise this coming year and for the next ten years. This will mean more community infrastructure such as schools, churches, mosques, hospitals, clinics, shopping facilities and so on.


If 2 million migrants come to Europe in a year we can expect to take at least 1% of them, plus those who will follow as near relatives, as we embrace our responsibilities under the UN's REUNIFICATION OF REFUGEE FAMILIES Provisions.

Ireland may become the focus of interest for Refugees seeking high social supports, in an English Language Environment, now that the UK are Brexiting. Could we be looking at up to 100,000 new Citizens per year joining us?

Over 10,000 people rescued by the Irish Navy in the...
 


The Field Marshal

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The Irish navy are ferring into Europe potential Islamic jihadists intent on destroying all European values and systems.

The Irish politicians do not care or do not understand the very real dangers attached to their false humanitarianism
 

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There is quite a few in my town already, of course they are not affecting the private schooling, housing needs, GP waiting times etc of the people in power that make these decisions, sure how could they ? they are shipped far away from the O Gormans and Sutherlands,

Is any Irish journo looking at population trends in the third world , welfare costs of quite of a lot of them, the fooking behaviour of some that are clearly on welfare for life and was the main reason for getting here ? (can't blame them)

It is almost like an academic just needs to explain what numbers mean to journo's, how completely mad the coming decades will get if the population trends play out and we just keep ignoring the reality.
 

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None of this would be happening if the NATO terrorist scum hadn't murdered Al Gaddafi and destroyed Libya.
 

APettigrew92

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It is inevitable that 10,000 people will end up taking refuge in Ireland, and that their near relatives will join them in the safe haven of Ireland, in early course. It is obvious too that more housing will be needed and that this must pose some challenges by way of merely building the necessary units let alone financing them.
That's not how asylum works. That's not even how the asylum process works. First safe country. Reuniting of families is an American creation for all the Latino workers they've used illegally for decades. We cannot even solve a basic housing crisis for 3,000.

The Government must move to quickly determine how many near relatives will be likely to join those fished from the sea. Government must also consider the likely outturn of rescued persons that will arise this coming year and for the next ten years. This will mean more community infrastructure such as schools, churches, mosques, hospitals, clinics, shopping facilities and so on.
Are you basing this on any policy ever undertaken by any non-imaginary Government ever? Mosques? Shopping facilities?

Are you sure you're discussing asylum seekers?

If 2 million migrants come to Europe in a year we can expect to take at least 1% of them, plus those who will follow as near relatives, as we embrace our responsibilities under the UN's REUNIFICATION OF REFUGEE FAMILIES Provisions.

Ireland may become the focus of interest for Refugees seeking high social supports, in an English Language Environment, now that the UK are Brexiting. Could we be looking at up to 100,000 new Citizens per year joining us?

Over 10,000 people rescued by the Irish Navy in the...
100,000 new "citizens"? Asylum seekers and "citizens" are two very different things. Unless you are discounting Brexiters.

I don't think this is a serious idea. Perhaps it's poor sarcasm.
 

olli rehn

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Massa von Horn is just a spoofer trying to create xenophobia- just like some of his friends....
 

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Africa has never been as peaceful as it is today for probably centuries.
The crisis has nothing to do with increased conflict or oppression in Africa but a series of utterly stupid decisions and press releases by the EU in the last 2 or 3 years that redefined the traditional definition of what constitutes a legal refugee.
Ghana, Gambia, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Algeria, Nigeria, Cameroon....do not and should not be classified as countries that fall under the terms of asylum.
 

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The sooner the Irish Navy is withdrawn from this exercise in facilitating the operations of Human Traffickers

- & the ferrying of illegal immigrants into Europe the better

Irish sailors on the these boats would be well within their rights to refuse orders to engage in these 'rescues'

- the whole thing is beyond a farce at this stage
 

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Does anybody know the law regarding EU point of entry and the sovereignty of a naval vessel in international waters ? AFAIK Dublin convention establishes that asylum is processed by country of entry in the EU. Regardless of the validity of the people seeking asylum, they will have to be housed somewhere for the duration of the process, which in the case of Ireland seems to take years.
 

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Why are they not patrolling our own coastline to stop drug shipments and illegal fishing ?


That is there job and not to function as a glorified taxi service
 

peader odonnell

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Africa has never been as peaceful as it is today for probably centuries.
The crisis has nothing to do with increased conflict or oppression in Africa but a series of utterly stupid decisions and press releases by the EU in the last 2 or 3 years that redefined the traditional definition of what constitutes a legal refugee.
Ghana, Gambia, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Algeria, Nigeria, Cameroon....do not and should not be classified as countries that fall under the terms of asylum.
Yet most of them are now comeing from Sub Saharan Africa no less.
 

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Why don't they just drop them back on shore further up the coast, having "saved" them from their own reckless decisions?

Sub-saharan africa had a population of 300m in 1960, that is over 1 billion today. Boils down to this: why should we subsidise african fertility?
 
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Fantastic thread. One of the best ever on:

Politics.ie is one of Ireland's leading politics and current affairs discussion websites with more than 600,000 visitors a month. Founded in 2003, Politics.ie has one of the most engaged, respected and influential politics and current affairs communities.
 

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Why don't they just drop them back on shore further up the coast, having "saved" them from their own reckless decisions?

Sub-saharan africa had a population of 300m in 1960, that is over 1 billion today. Boils down to this: why should we subsidise african fertility?
I thought i read somewhere that the rubber tree grows quiet well down in bongo bongo,Or maybe i am wrong it must be something else.
 

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None of this would be happening if the NATO terrorist scum hadn't murdered Al Gaddafi and destroyed Libya.
True. It all started there, and Gaddafi and Hussein were tortured and murdered with NATO's blessing and innocent Europeans are now paying a terrible price.

Gaddafi and Hussein were brutal in their suppression of opposition, but they were the type to control these Islamists with violent tendencies.

The right guys at the right time - but the West was not happy with that, and wanted 'regime change'.

Now the West, with the conniving of Merkel and Obama, are bearing the consequences.
 
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Boils down to this: why should we subsidise african fertility?

Don't you know that these refugees will help replenish the lower birth rates of Western Europeans.
They shall provide us with an unlimited amount of doctors, dentists, nurses, solicitors and liberal media commentators.

Welcome them with open arms or you are a big fat wacist !
 

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It's a game children... Let them pay if they want to play.



No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

ANTI-poverty campaigner Sir Bob Geldof has charged Australian organisers $100,000 to give a speech about world suffering.
Geldof, 54, spoke about the tragedy of Third World poverty and the failure of governments to combat the crisis at a Crown casino function in Melbourne on Thursday night.
But he charged about $100,000 for his troubles - a speakers fee that included the cost of luxury hotel rooms and first-class airfares.
Fellow activist, World Vision CEO the Reverend Tim Costello, spoke for free. An event insider said the Geldof payments, which included the costs of a minder, appeared hypocritical.
"It was an inspiring speech. But when you think he got paid $100,000 to talk about poverty it seems like a bit of a contradiction," the insider said.
 

irish dog

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No poverty for Sir bob,How can he speak about something he has no first hand experience of.
Was there not some scam with live aid moneys a few year back.
Its a bit like Berty getting thousands to speak about how to run a country.
I blame the fools who pay these speakers and i also blame the other fools who listen.
 

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