100 years since partition was proposed

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100 years ago today, the British cabinet began work on partitioning Ireland
The Government of Ireland Bill did not try to solve the Irish question, just the Ulster question



Luckily for us it didn't apply, as we won our war of independence in jig time

Then we were too nice to make a fuss about it.

Then the brits let us off our debt in 1925, and we confirmed that it was grand.

Then we made a huge fuss about it.


Roll on the backstop, guys
 


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The architect of partition was Walter Long, the same man who had destroyed John Redmond a few years earlier.

 

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100 years ago today, the British cabinet began work on partitioning Ireland
The Government of Ireland Bill did not try to solve the Irish question, just the Ulster question




Luckily for us it didn't apply, as we won our war of independence in jig time

Then we were too nice to make a fuss about it.

Then the brits let us off our debt in 1925, and we confirmed that it was grand.

Then we made a huge fuss about it.


Roll on the backstop, guys
Who is "us"/"we" - you are not us or we.

And what is this independence that you speak of????

Ireland did not win its independence, nor did the people of Ireland.

"Minister for External Affairs in the Irish Free State, with his humble duty to the King, begs to submit to Your Majesty that Your Majesty's Government in the Irish Free State have given earnest consideration to certain matters affecting the existing constitutional status of the Irish Free State"

To our shame and humiliation as Irish people, England still rules in Ireland today!

 
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It's fair to say we were distracted by our war of independence, that we thought we had won in 1921, while in the meantime Long and co were quietly sorting the paperwork for what became the 1920 home rule act.

SF, supported by my voting grandparents, wanted noting to do with westminster, and ignored the act, but could do nothing to stop it creating the home-ruled 6 counties. Where a sizeable armed group had made their presence felt.

The 1920 act was so out of touch with the reality on the ground in the 26 counties, that you could argue it was intended to work only in the north. The orangemen didn't want home rule, but when it was given them they used it in predictable ways.

By the time of the truce in mid-1921, the stormont parliament was up and running, and come the talks leading up to the treaty, Dev was left with 26 counties in the bag.
 

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It's fair to say we were distracted by our war of independence, that we thought we had won in 1921, while in the meantime Long and co were quietly sorting the paperwork for what became the 1920 home rule act.

SF, supported by my voting grandparents, wanted noting to do with westminster, and ignored the act, but could do nothing to stop it creating the home-ruled 6 counties. Where a sizeable armed group had made their presence felt.

The 1920 act was so out of touch with the reality on the ground in the 26 counties, that you could argue it was intended to work only in the north. The orangemen didn't want home rule, but when it was given them they used it in predictable ways.

By the time of the truce in mid-1921, the stormont parliament was up and running, and come the talks leading up to the treaty, Dev was left with 26 counties in the bag.
If you say so - hahahahaha
 
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