1001 ways to save money at the HSE

Craiced

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Seeing as the HSE are dishing out economic and budgetary advice these days i thought it was time to return the favour and identify ways they can save money.
HSE.ie - Health Service Executive Website - HSE advice on eating healthily and economically in 2010
These days we are all looking to tighten our purse strings, wherever possible. Most of us have cut back on how often we eat out, but there are other ways to save on our monthly food bill while still eating healthily. :)
This thread is for:
- Individuals affected by cuts in front line services.
- Doctors, Nurses, HSE officials who wish to be whistleblowers on inefficient practices.
- Consultants, engineers, lawyers, drug companies who have fleeced the HSE over the years and can offer some advice on how they could get better value
- SIPTU officials who have a conscience about how they squandered funds and who have advice to create a system which is more Scam-Proof
- Anyone with simple common sense ideas on how best to save money at the HSE.

There are many other threads on this site with examples of HSE Waste. Please copy and paste these examples onto this thread.

When the HSE start to cut front line services in your home town because of “budgetary constraints” give them one thousand and one reasons why they should not! There is another way forward. Cut the health budget at the top of the tree not front line services!
 
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Contract out all services.............. If not medically qualified then service is contracted out.
 

martino

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How come we don't see that many Polish/Lithuaninan/Latvian consultants in Irish hospitals? We see many Polish/Lithuaninan/Latvian sales assistants in our shops. Where are their more highly qualified compatriots? Is it that immigration is only good for one open area of the economy, and shame on you for suggesting it could be more representively distributed?
 

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NO.3 Open Economy for Medical Profession.

How come we don't see that many Polish/Lithuaninan/Latvian consultants in Irish hospitals? We see many Polish/Lithuaninan/Latvian sales assistants in our shops. Where are their more highly qualified compatriots? Is it that immigration is only good for one open area of the economy, and shame on you for suggesting it could be more representively distributed?
Good point. Open economy, drive prices down. Russian doctors are some of the best in the world.
 

nakatomi

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Where eastern European doctors have worked here they mostly cannot stand the working conditions.

But it is an open market and everyone suitably qualified is free to apply for consultant job.

It is interesting that very few consultants in the UK apply to work here, given that the pay is supposed to be so much better.

Easy way to cut waste is that every piece of equipment used should have its price attached.

Every tablet used , every xray ordered. Then incentivise saving by giving half of all the money saved to buy better equipment.
 

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It is interesting that very few consultants in the UK apply to work here, given that the pay is supposed to be so much better.

What evidence do you have that they don't apply?
 
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Éireann go Brách

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Preventation is better than cure.
+1 excellant post egb

A few weeks ago I saw on UTV news Peter Robinson talking after
some cycle charity event.
He made an excellant comment. He said that we as a soceity
will not be able to afford health care costs in future due to issues
like obesity and heavying drinking and the solution has to become a heatlhier society.

Lets stop people from getting into hositpal in the first place
is the one effective method of dealing with HSE costs

This country needs to face up to obesity we are one of fattest peoples in europe now.
This country needs to face up drink and fags, We are one of the heaviest
abusers of both.

Of course it would help if your PM and MOH where not a pisshead and obese.

Preventation is better than cure
 

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An internal HSE report examined a training fund called the Skills Programme. This fund was intended to provide training for low skilled health workers. €2.5 million of the programme’s budget was paid over to a SIPTU account.

Some of the findings of the report include;
• The fund paid for 31 foreign trips to destinations such as; Hong Kong, Australia and the US.
• €12,000 was spend on taxis
• A retirement party costing €1,500 came from the fund.
• Inadequate documentation was submitted to back up reimbursement claims worth €348,000.

HSE Waste Scandal Probed By Dail
 

darkhorse

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Surely there are more than 1001 people being paid by the HSE who do little or nothing and who could be gotten rid of?
 
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Ask individuals in HSE who offer private services during their 'lunch hour' some serious questions
e.g A speech and language 'professional' tells a parent that there is along waiting list for an HSE assessment
but offers a private assessment the following week for a fee of €190 during their 'lunch hour' if they turn up in a room at the back of the local chemist's shop.
Perhaps this is unfair on the S&Ls as it seems to be what consultant doctors are doing all the time!
In any case the HSE needs a shake up of unbelievable proportions from hosptial porters on the piss all day Sunday unable to work on Monday to Gonzaga
educated Consultants earning €600,000 from combined public and private practice happily offering little 2 year old Rubens and Aoifes ear grommets on Saturdays in private clinics for €400
 

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Health Roles to be defined

THIS explains just how things are so bad.....


review...independant consultant....12 months....then "publish"...(allegedly).

After 6 years they "decide" after an appaling indictment of work practises..they should decide on division of workloads!!!.
If this is what its like at the top...why does anyone query the bottom??
 

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How come we don't see that many Polish/Lithuaninan/Latvian consultants in Irish hospitals? We see many Polish/Lithuaninan/Latvian sales assistants in our shops. Where are their more highly qualified compatriots? Is it that immigration is only good for one open area of the economy, and shame on you for suggesting it could be more representively distributed?
Polish/Lithuaninan/Latvian sales assistants in our shops are their more highly qualified compatriots
 

nakatomi

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What evidence do you have that they don't apply?
A few do, but they are all married to an Irish partner, We have a couple of british consultants, in general there is very little to attract consultants to work here and given the cost of living there is little difference in the quality of life renumeration.
How Much Do Doctors in Other Countries Make? - NYTimes.com
The hospitals are disgraceful with 15 hour wait to be seen in Emergency departments, ( thats just to be seen, another 5 days spent on a trolley is common).

Many new consultant surgeons will deskill in the public system soon as they cannot get operating time and they are not allowed to operate outside the public hospitals.

Consultant surgeons would spend all day operating if they could, they rarely can in the irish public system.
 

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My only experience of the Irish health service is either as a patient or as someone accompanying a patient. That said, I have never encountered a non-Irish consultant here, although obviously I have met many non-Irish junior doctors. A nurse friend of mine says that the consultants here ensure that the high paid jobs are kept for their Irish pals, and in many cases, for their own Irish sons and daughters.

Thanks for the link on comparative incomes. Interesting.
 


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