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'14 Days' - Documentary about violent period in Northern Ireland in 1988


ShoutingIsLeadership

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Rubbish OP - sorry. Currently showing attack by Michael Stone on funeral of the ' Gibraltar 3'.
 

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Rubbish OP - sorry. Currently showing attack by Michael Stone on funeral of the ' Gibraltar 3'.
You know you can't type, change nappies, drink beer, watch TV and feed the dog at the same time, don't you?




Obviously not . . .
 

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How far we've come. Really. Fair play to all sides to come so far.

Edit: I don't remember that footage of the two soldiers who got caught up in the funeral. Fair play to that priest.
 
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firefly123

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That is a true christian act right there. Regardless of your belief
 

Hitch 22

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It shows how bad things could become again if the dissidents are not stopped.

Who the f*ck wants to go back to bloodshed like that?
 

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The image of Fr Reid over David Howes body must be one of the most powerful of any conflict anywhere. The fact that the attack in Milltown and the Corporal Killings took place while tv cameras were present, along with that image, brought the horror of it all into sitting rooms and think made them almost more...real, and certainly more publicised, than so many other atrocities where the footage just showed areas cordoned off and post facto accounts.
 

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We will never go back to those dark times.

What we need now is a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to help put these painful times fully to rest....
 

ShoutingIsLeadership

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You know you can't type, change nappies, drink beer, watch TV and feed the dog at the same time, don't you?




Obviously not . . .
Sorry! The documentary was on two weeks ago and I just happened upon it tonight. Felt it was worth sharing because I had found it so moving first time around.

You've no idea how much trouble I went to, to create the thread :)
 

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The image of Fr Reid over David Howes body must be one of the most powerful of any conflict anywhere. The fact that the attack in Milltown and the Corporal Killings took place while tv cameras were present, along with that image, brought the horror of it all into sitting rooms and think made them almost more...real, and certainly more publicised, than so many other atrocities where the footage just showed areas cordoned off and post facto accounts.
Indeed.

The death of those two soldiers caused widespread revulsion nationally and internationally.

Adams knew that the Provos lost a lot of support when people saw what the IRA were actually all about as a result of those soldiers death.

Fr.Alec is a great man of peace and Christian solidarity.
 

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The image of Fr Reid over David Howes body must be one of the most
powerful of any conflict anywhere. The fact that the attack in Milltown and the Corporal Killings took place while tv cameras were present, along with that image, brought the horror of it all into sitting rooms and think made them almost more...real, and certainly more publicised, than so many other atrocities where the footage just showed areas cordoned off and post facto accounts.
The blood still on Reid's face
 

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Indeed.

The death of those two soldiers caused widespread revulsion nationally and internationally.

Adams knew that the Provos lost a lot of support when people saw what the IRA were actually all about as a result of those soldiers death.

Fr.Alec is a great man of peace and Christian solidarity.
I'm sorry Gerhard.. but that didn't lead to any great swell of support against the Provisional IRA. In fact, many people who supported the IRA would have praised the men who attacked the soldiers (whether you agree or disagree with that, and I am pretty sure you disagree)

You have to imagine the context of the killings, happening as they did only a few days after the killings in Milltown, when the crowd suspected that once again funeral attndees were going to be attacked by a loyalist gunman.

The nationalist community was a powder keg at the time, and while the killings were horrific, they came about because two soldiers were somewhere they never should have been. Remember, one of the soldiers pulled a gun to the crowd when they were attacked in the car. If you were one of the mourners, and had been in Milltown at the original funeral.. what would you have thought was going to happen when you saw a gun being pulled once again?
 

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I'm sorry Gerhard.. but that didn't lead to any great swell of support against the Provisional IRA. In fact, many people who supported the IRA would have praised the men who attacked the soldiers (whether you agree or disagree with that, and I am pretty sure you disagree)

You have to imagine the context of the killings, happening as they did only a few days after the killings in Milltown, when the crowd suspected that once again funeral attndees were going to be attacked by a loyalist gunman.

The nationalist community was a powder keg at the time, and while the killings were horrific, they came about because two soldiers were somewhere they never should have been. Remember, one of the soldiers pulled a gun to the crowd when they were attacked in the car. If you were one of the mourners, and had been in Milltown at the original funeral.. what would you have thought was going to happen when you saw a gun being pulled once again?
Really not interested in debating this issue.
 

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It was a classic illustration of a chain of violence.

The events of that couple of weeks prove the saying that violence begets violence. Thats always been my belief about those events
 

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Indeed.

The death of those two soldiers caused widespread revulsion nationally and internationally.

Adams knew that the Provos lost a lot of support when people saw what the IRA were actually all about as a result of those soldiers death.

Fr.Alec is a great man of peace and Christian solidarity.
What was kinda odd was that the tv cameras caught the initial attack, the car reversing at speed into the cort├Ęge, the crowd swarming around...and that initially seemed savage, the man with the wheel brace pounding on the car etc. But of course, that explosive reaction was understandable and excusable, crowd panic, the sickening attack just a few days earlier, yet again a gun being produced. The torture they endured over the next few hours, repeated stabbings, repeated beatings, shot again and again, that was far more calculating and sadistic.
 
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