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2010 PD Trinity is coming through


jayblue

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If anyone can remember back to the 1997 general election campaign when the PD's manifesto talked about bringing in water charges, cutting the employees in the civil service and cutting social welfare rates for single mothers, and this is what us party members called our Trinity.

Jump forward to 2010 and it appears that water metering is on the way, redundancies are on the cards for civil services/public sector workers, and various social welfare rates have been cut and will be cut in the forthcoming budget.

How the electorate reward the PD's for this honesty in 1997, well the numbers went from 10 to 4.

Just think its ironic that something the PD's talked about in 1997 is coming through in 2010, and that they are no longer around to see it happen
 


Tomas Mor

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Thaank God PDs are no longer around - free marketeers, low tax, let it rip,light touch regulation, Thatcher/Reagan camp followes. And do you remember that Boston/ Berlin thing ?
 

wee slabber

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PDs: gone, and happily forgotten.
 

jjcarroll

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If only the PDs had got into power in 1997, and had had the opportunity to rule the country for the subsequent decade in some form of coalition arrangement.

If only they had got in instead of the shyster Progressive Democrats, who

1. Did nothing to advance the case of water metering;
2. Increased the relative pay and numbers of public servants; and
3. Increased social welfare rates across the board.
 

Macy

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Just think its ironic that something the PD's talked about in 1997 is coming through in 2010, and that they are no longer around to see it happen
Pity they weren't subsequently in Government to implement it....
 

Baron von Biffo

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If anyone can remember back to the 1997 general election campaign when the PD's manifesto talked about bringing in water charges, cutting the employees in the civil service and cutting social welfare rates for single mothers, and this is what us party members called our Trinity.

Jump forward to 2010 and it appears that water metering is on the way, redundancies are on the cards for civil services/public sector workers, and various social welfare rates have been cut and will be cut in the forthcoming budget.

How the electorate reward the PD's for this honesty in 1997, well the numbers went from 10 to 4.

Just think its ironic that something the PD's talked about in 1997 is coming through in 2010, and that they are no longer around to see it happen
We wouldn't be in this mess in the first place if we hadn't taken on the PD ideology of unsustainable tax cuts and light touch regulation.
 

Brehon

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So Baron, you were happy to live in the 1980's of high personal tax, poor public services, high emigration, low growth, highly regulated markets in telecoms, etc that gave us poor service and high prices. If I could give you a gift it would be the Deloran time machine. You can go back 25 years and live in that eden that you miss so much in 1985. P.S don't forget to buy some shares in Microsoft and Ryanair when they appear. Stay away from the banks and their magic money making machines!
 

sandar

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yes bit Ireland is a different place in 2010 and at a different place in the economic cycle, even if those were the right policies for then, they may not be now, and vice versa.
 

Brehon

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Agreed sandar but there is no such thing as the business cycle just shocks to the economy based on poor decisions by individuals or groups. We can't anticipate all the future shocks so an economy has to prepare for the worst and be happy when it doesn't happen. The low tax approach worked but the free credit system from ECB wrecked the boat by creating a perfect storm. There needs to be a better understanding of regulation adjectives light, weak, strong, wide, de- etc They don't describe the situation in the detail required and promote misunderstanding of what regulation is and isn't, what it can and can't do, it's abilities and failings, its implementation and cost.
 

Mar Tweedy

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If anyone can remember back to the 1997 general election campaign when the PD's manifesto talked about bringing in water charges, cutting the employees in the civil service and cutting social welfare rates for single mothers, and this is what us party members called our Trinity.

Jump forward to 2010 and it appears that water metering is on the way, redundancies are on the cards for civil services/public sector workers, and various social welfare rates have been cut and will be cut in the forthcoming budget.

How the electorate reward the PD's for this honesty in 1997, well the numbers went from 10 to 4.

Just think its ironic that something the PD's talked about in 1997 is coming through in 2010, and that they are no longer around to see it happen
There is one of the species left in Health don't forget.
Imagine, if all Departments had been run by the PDs, every department and area of public service would be working as well as the Department of Health and Children and the HSE.

Yes, shame they never got the chance. :rolleyes:
 

Baron von Biffo

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So Baron, you were happy to live in the 1980's of high personal tax, poor public services, high emigration, low growth, highly regulated markets in telecoms, etc that gave us poor service and high prices. If I could give you a gift it would be the Deloran time machine. You can go back 25 years and live in that eden that you miss so much in 1985. P.S don't forget to buy some shares in Microsoft and Ryanair when they appear. Stay away from the banks and their magic money making machines!
That is, with respect, a foolish comment. If I think the destruction of the tax base and letting the crooks and clowns run riot in the banks wasn't a great idea then I must support everything you see as bad about 25 years ago. Silly stuff.
 

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