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2021 the 100th birthday of Northern Ireland.



Beachcomber

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Yes, of course our upcoming centenary matters a lot to us proud Northerners.
Brexit may reinforce the border and Leo will have to bow down to his Euro masters and send the troops to the border to enforce its tariffs.
Maybe a nice colourful parade might be a fitting way to celebrate our birthday, what do you think.

Amen brother.

A colourful parade for all.
 

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Will you have a government to organize this in 2021?

Serious question.

Should the centenary celebrations of NI include a Nationalist perspective?

Nationalists are welcome to celebrate NI's birthday.

Or by "Nationalist perspective" do you mean that they'll be bombing crowds of people, like they did at Omagh?
 

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Historically correct - the Unionists brought the gun back into modern Irish politics.

The terrorist UVF were built around the sectarian OO lodges. Idiot Unionists who claimed to be loyal to Britain, smuggled German weapons into Ireland to do battle with the British army.

You couldn't make it up - hahahaha

What's wrong with German weapons?
 

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Seven and a half centuries of colonial exploitation is not 'simplistic'.

Irish did not 'chose' to live on the neighbouring island.

Their land was confiscated, their livliehoods were destroyed, some were being starved to death, their economic life was destroyed.

After seven and a half centuries of that the people in charge in London signed the following when they signed the Good Friday Agreement.

GFA quote.

'Wishing to develop still further the unique relationship between their peoples and the close co-operation between their countries as friendly neighbours and as partners in the European Union;'

To see racist Brexiteers tear up that agreement is to witness contempt for fellow human beings at its most foul.

Given that any country was able to leave the EU under the EU's own rules, it's obvious that the GFA is not being torn up.

The ROI and the UK can still have a friendly relationship if one is outside the EU, an one is in it.

The core principles of the GFA remain in place. The GFA did not guarantee that both the ROI and the UK would always remain within the EU.

Things change. This isn't a big issue.
 

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Not many people know that the 6 counties were originally part of the free State.
True.

So should there also be a celebration on the day that NI left the Irish Free State?

NI was up and running and chose to leave the Irish Free State. A wise move, given the sectarianism of the IFS and the later Irish states.

I can't wait to see what Irish nationalists do when it comes to the day that the Irish Free State came into being. There will be massive infighting among Irish Republicans and various shades of Irish Nationalists. Nobody will be able to agree on what sort of event to have to commemorate the start of the Irish Free State. The nationalist Irish will be disunited.
 

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Oh yay, the perfect excuse for violent idiots to attack other violent idiots under the misguided delusion that it matters. I hope this ''event'' doesn't cost the taxpayer in the Republic anything.
Nothing has happened in the north that ever cost the south a penny other than through the stupid belief, prevalent among many of your dimmer politicians and citizens, that it had nothing to do with you. Learn your history, silly woman, and stop pretending that we are not part of the "Ireland" that you bear a direct responsibility for.
Our problem is your problem. And it will be in perpetuity.
 

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Given that any country was able to leave the EU under the EU's own rules, it's obvious that the GFA is not being torn up.

The ROI and the UK can still have a friendly relationship if one is outside the EU, an one is in it.

The core principles of the GFA remain in place. The GFA did not guarantee that both the ROI and the UK would always remain within the EU.

Things change. This isn't a big issue.
Racist Brexiteers have declared economic war on the citizens of nearly thirty European democracies with whom the UK had signed a treaty to cooperate in matters of mutual interest.

This in a continent which was subject to war and ruin for centuries by imperial/totalitarian powers.

That means imposing a hard border which becomes a major international frontier across the island of Ireland.

That border was an open border because Ireland signed the Good Friday Agreement with the UK to draw a line under centuries of colonial exploitation.

To quote the GFA that involved

'Wishing to develop still further the unique relationship between their peoples and the close co-operation between their countries as friendly neighbours and as partners in the European Union;'

Brexit has torn up the GFA and is a declaration of racist contempt for the Irish.

Because the backstop is an effort to prevent that from happening racist Brexiteers want to get rid of it.
 

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They fared infinitely better than their counterparts in the South.

The NI flag will fly and people will organise their own street events.

If you think haters of NI and it's population are going to stop 100th anniversary celebrations you are going to be sadly disappointed.

Did unionists try to stop 1916 celebrations?

Did anyone care what the unionists in the south thought?
You think so?

You really think that on the cusp of the centenary of each state that NI is faring infinitely better than the Republic?

You don’t have a government, you don’t have a flag, your currency is rejected outside your state, nearly half your population vote for parties that want to see an end to your state, you haven’t been solvent for half a century at least, your main industry is chickens and the state you’re united to would dump you in the morning to secure Brexit.

Yeah, you’re a roaring success.
 

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You think so?

You really think that on the cusp of the centenary of each state that NI is faring infinitely better than the Republic?

You don’t have a government, you don’t have a flag, your currency is rejected outside your state, nearly half your population vote for parties that want to see an end to your state, you haven’t been solvent for half a century at least, your main industry is chickens and the state you’re united to would dump you in the morning to secure Brexit.

Yeah, you’re a roaring success.
I was referring to the Catholics of NI fairing infinitely better to the Protestants of the south.

NI has struggled due to allowing a minority of the population to hold back the Coubtry as a whole.
Nowhere near half of the population vote for parties who want an end to the state. SF and the SDLP get 30 odd % of the vote of 50 odd % of the population.

We have a flag which you will have seen all over the TV in the last week as our sports stars continue their Worldwide success. You'll find that Sterling is our currency and it is accepted all over the World.

There is a government in Westminster,which is more than adequate.
 

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I was referring to the Catholics of NI fairing infinitely better to the Protestants of the south.

NI has struggled due to allowing a minority of the population to hold back the Coubtry as a whole.
Nowhere near half of the population vote for parties who want an end to the state. SF and the SDLP get 30 odd % of the vote of 50 odd % of the population.

We have a flag which you will have seen all over the TV in the last week as our sports stars continue their Worldwide success. You'll find that Sterling is our currency and it is accepted all over the World.

There is a government in Westminster,which is more than adequate.
What country would that be Squatter???

Nowhere in Ireland is your "country" - you Unionists are squatting in my country Ireland.

Even the land grabbing brits do not call so-called "Northern Ireland" a country. The UK's submission to the 2007 United Nations Conference on the Standardisation of Geographical Names defines the UK as being made up of two countries (England and Scotland), one principality (Wales) and one region (Northern Ireland) - which is in Ulster, which is obviously in Ireland.

Just a few weeks ago in Britain where the real British live, Joanna Cherry MP said - "I am delighted to hear that the Home Secretary accepts that the need for regional variation in Northern Ireland is mirrored by a similar need in Scotland, although I would underline that Scotland is a nation, not a region. "

You locationally challenged Unionists trapped in Ireland are DELUDED.
 
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McSlaggart

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It was a pretty major date for you nationalists too.

You started your decades-long pouting.

Then: "we want nothing to do with this 6 county entity"

Now: "we were excluded from everything"

The truth is that you excluded yourselves.

You are included in the fun now though - but of course you will probably boycott it all, as usual.

Happy Birthday.

Do you have any evidence to support your statement?
 

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