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20th anniversary of Warrington bombing


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One of the most sickening atrocities of the Troubles happened twenty years ago today, on the 20th March 1993, in Warrington, England. After an inadequate warning, two bombs planted by the Provisional IRA exploded on Bridge St on a busy Saturday morning. Two young children were killed; three year old Johnathan Bell died instantly, and twelve year old Tim Parry died some days later in hospital.



Sickenly, yet typically, the IRA blamed the British authorities for their deaths:

Responsibility for the tragic and deeply regrettable death and injuries caused in Warrington yesterday lies squarely at the door of those in the British authorities who deliberately failed to act on precise and adequate warnings
Whilst the bombing will always stand as a testimony to Provo savagery, at least some good did come from the horror. The people of Ireland made their voices crystal clear in the "Peace 93" rallies, and Colin Parry, the father of Tim, set up the Tim Parry Johnathan Ball Foundation for Peace, to promote peace and understanding between the UK and Ireland.

Foundation for Peace

Hopefully these islands will never witness such horror again.
 
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SeamusNapoleon

Who remembers Damien Walsh?

at least some good did come from the horror. The people of Ireland made their voices crystal clear in the "Peace 93" rallies
Irish Times, 3 April 1993

Sir, - When the phone rang just after midnight in my Rotterdam apartment on Thursday night I ignored hoping it was a wrong number. I also ignored the second call. However, on hearing the third I knew that bad news was on the way. The phone call was the one that every person in Northern Ireland over the last 20 years has dreaded receiving, the news that a close member of the family has been killed in the troubles. In this case, it was my nephew Damien Walsh, the seventeen-year old son of my sister Marian, assassinated by the UDA as he worked as a trainee coalman in Twinbrook.

The brutal sectarian murder of a young man on the threshold of life is a shocking injustice, taking away from him the most elementary right of all: the right to life. However, this primary injustice was soon to be compounded by an accumulation of other injustices mostly affecting his parents and family. First, there was the treatment my sister received at the City Hospital where, just after Damien died, she was coldly informed that “well, he didn’t make it” by a member of the medical staff. The incident as much as any other kept swirling through my sister’s consciousness in the nightmarish days that followed.

The second injustice followed the finding of a quantity of fertiliser near the scene of the murder (a large shopping complex). Although the RUC made clear that this was pure coincidence, some sections of the media, including the Irish Times and the Belfast Telegraph, did not hesitate to link the two incidents, giving what seemed to be a spurious justification to the murder

…

The final element of hurt and pain was the reaction, or rather the non-reaction, of the burgeoning peace movement in the Republic of Ireland. Most people in Northern Ireland, including Damien’s family, were profoundly shocked by the Warrington atrocity and the death of the two children. Indeed, at Damien’s funeral mass prayers were said for the parents and families of the Warrington children. What the family could not understand was why this wave of emotion could not be extended to Damien, who was still only a boy. Damien’s family received no plane load of flowers from the Republic nor from England. The only cards from the South were from relatives and one Trinity student from Derry.

The purpose of this letter is not to score points, but to make a point: every singly human life is unique and precious. There must be no discrimination in our reaction to murder which is always the supreme evil. In their understandable reaction to Warrington, people in the South of Ireland should be careful to remember those other dozens of children and young people murdered in the North of Ireland. They should remember that reactions such as occurred after Enniskillen and Warrington, while they bring comfort to some sections of the community, are deeply offensive to others if they do not take their suffering account. If this happens, then the “peace” movement will in fact bring about the very opposite of what it is seeking to achieve. It will further embitter the Catholic working-class people of the North who have suffered so much in these troubles and drive some of them into the hands of the IRA.

– Yours, etc.,

[name in original],
Associate Professor in Public Administration,
Erasmus University,
Rotterdam.

Hopefully these islands will never witness such horror again.
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One of the most sickening atrocities of the Troubles happened twenty years ago today, on the 20th March 1993, in Warrington, England. After an inadequate warning, two bombs planted by the Provisional IRA exploded on Bridge St on a busy Saturday morning. Two young children were killed; three year old Johnathan Bell died instantly, and twelve year old Tim Parry died some days later in hospital.



Sickenly, yet typically, the IRA blamed the British authorities for their deaths:
Two precise warnings had been given in adequate time, one to the Samaritans and one to Merseyside Police. As the IRA said "You don't provide warnings if it is your intention to kill". The Brit police couldn't even deny it, the fact that they failed to act on adequate warnings leaves the blame on the Brit police. It wouldn't be the first or last time the British authorities put civilians in the line of fire whether it be Bloody Sunday or Dublin/Monaghan and countless others atrocites as the OP knows well but will deny regardless.

Whilst the bombing will always stand as a testimony to Provo savagery, at least some good did come from the horror. The people of Ireland made their voices crystal clear in the "Peace 93" rallies, and Colin Parry, the father of Tim, set up the Tim Parry Johnathan Ball Foundation for Peace, to promote peace and understanding between the UK and Ireland.

Foundation for Peace

Hopefully these islands will never witness such horror again.
Hypocrisy '93 would have been a better title. Of course the Gombeen state went into overdrive and made a ' peace superstar ' out of housewife Susan McHugh as some sort of Mother Theresa for peace. You couldn't make it up. I was at the GPO at the so called ' Peace ' rally, when the parents of children murdered by the Brit army in the north came down to illustrate that it wasn't just the IRA or UVF for that matter who had carried out their share of killing. Of course with the Gombeen media circus and political movemnets, these people were branded ' subversives ' and physically jossled and had pictures of thier loved ones torn up by the west Brit element in the crowd and of course our old friends the Stickies (Workers Party). All in full sight of the coppers and most importantly that lovely peace lover Susan McHugh who claims she never seen it from standing on a platform a few yards away.
 

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One of the most sickening atrocities of the Troubles happened twenty years ago today, on the 20th March 1993, in Warrington, England. After an inadequate warning, two bombs planted by the Provisional IRA exploded on Bridge St on a busy Saturday morning. Two young children were killed; three year old Johnathan Bell died instantly, and twelve year old Tim Parry died some days later in hospital.



Sickenly, yet typically, the IRA blamed the British authorities for their deaths:



Whilst the bombing will always stand as a testimony to Provo savagery, at least some good did come from the horror. The people of Ireland made their voices crystal clear in the "Peace 93" rallies, and Colin Parry, the father of Tim, set up the Tim Parry Johnathan Ball Foundation for Peace, to promote peace and understanding between the UK and Ireland.

Foundation for Peace

Hopefully these islands will never witness such horror again.

Terrible act by the Provos, but what really galls me is that attacks by the British armed forces that resulted in children being killed, never got the same sort of publicity.
 

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Two precise warnings had been given in adequate time, one to the Samaritans and one to Merseyside Police. As the IRA said "You don't provide warnings if it is your intention to kill". The Brit police couldn't even deny it, the fact that they failed to act on adequate warnings leaves the blame on the Brit police.
Strange argument.

A bit like saying if I decide to go out and shoot some random stranger dead in the the street, it's the governments fault for not issuing every citizen with a bullet-proof vest.

I don't get it.
 
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Strange argument.

A bit like saying if I decide to go out and shoot some random stranger dead in the the street, it's the governments fault for not issuing every citizen with a bullet-proof vest.

I don't get it.
It's standard IRA apologia.
 

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Strange argument.

A bit like saying if I decide to go out and shoot some random stranger dead in the the street, it's the governments fault for not issuing every citizen with a bullet-proof vest.

I don't get it.
Stupid argument. If I send two warnings that I'm going to go down to McDonalds on Grafton Street stand at the entrance at 12.30 pm and shoot someone and the cops ignore both warnings even though they are an agreed warning code*, it's not the coppers fault for ignoring it and deliberately putting people in the firing line ??


( i.e. the IRA used to use " Double X " as their name in warnings)
 

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Two precise warnings had been given in adequate time, one to the Samaritans and one to Merseyside Police. As the IRA said "You don't provide warnings if it is your intention to kill". The Brit police couldn't even deny it, the fact that they failed to act on adequate warnings leaves the blame on the Brit police. It wouldn't be the first or last time the British authorities put civilians in the line of fire whether it be Bloody Sunday or Dublin/Monaghan and countless others atrocites as the OP knows well but will deny regardless.


Hypocrisy '93 would have been a better title. Of course the Gombeen state went into overdrive and made a ' peace superstar ' out of housewife Susan McHugh as some sort of Mother Theresa for peace. You couldn't make it up. I was at the GPO at the so called ' Peace ' rally, when the parents of children murdered by the Brit army in the north came down to illustrate that it wasn't just the IRA or UVF for that matter who had carried out their share of killing. Of course with the Gombeen media circus and political movemnets, these people were branded ' subversives ' and physically jossled and had pictures of thier loved ones torn up by the west Brit element in the crowd and of course our old friends the Stickies (Workers Party). All in full sight of the coppers and most importantly that lovely peace lover Susan McHugh who claims she never seen it from standing on a platform a few yards away.
Repugnant post!

So planting bombs in busy shopping streets is perfectly okay as long as a warning is given.

The warning absolves the bomber of all blame or fault?

Bullcr@p, pure and simple.

The sooner this island is rid of that attitude, no matter it's source, the better for us all.
 

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Stupid argument. If I send two warnings that I'm going to go down to McDonalds on Grafton Street stand at the entrance at 12.30 pm and shoot someone and the cops ignore both warnings even though they are an agreed warning code*, it's not the coppers fault for ignoring it and deliberately putting people in the firing line ??


( i.e. the IRA used to use " Double X " as their name in warnings)
Christ. You're veritably brainless.
 

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Stupid argument. If I send two warnings that I'm going to go down to McDonalds on Grafton Street stand at the entrance at 12.30 pm and shoot someone and the cops ignore both warnings even though they are an agreed warning code*, it's not the coppers fault for ignoring it and deliberately putting people in the firing line ??


( i.e. the IRA used to use " Double X " as their name in warnings)
No, it's your fault for killing someone.

The utter lack of any awareness of this basic simple truth is frankly astonishing.

But this refusal to acknowledge the consequences of their actions was typical of the IRA, as was their cowardice as shown by what they did to Patsy Gillespie.

Getting innocent men to die for Ireland because they were too cowardly to do it themselves.
 

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Repugnant post!

So planting bombs in busy shopping streets is perfectly okay as long as a warning is given.

The warning absolves the bomber of all blame or fault?

Bullcr@p, pure and simple.

The sooner this island is rid of that attitude, no matter it's source, the better for us all.
In the early days of the troubles, the IRA used to quote from a British army manual printed during WW2 if the German's had invaded Britain on sabotage missions, wrecking the infrastructure, making Britain ungovernable etc . Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.
 

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Stupid argument. If I send two warnings that I'm going to go down to McDonalds on Grafton Street stand at the entrance at 12.30 pm and shoot someone and the cops ignore both warnings even though they are an agreed warning code*, it's not the coppers fault for ignoring it and deliberately putting people in the firing line ??
I wouldn't think so, no. If you deliberately kill people it's your fault, is it not? Shouldn't adults be responsible for their own actions?
 

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No, it's your fault for killing someone.

The utter lack of any awareness of this basic simple truth is frankly astonishing.

But this refusal to acknowledge the consequences of their actions was typical of the IRA, as was their cowardice as shown by what they did to Patsy Gillespie.

Getting innocent men to die for Ireland because they were too cowardly to do it themselves.
Never hear of McSweeney or Sands ? I thought a fair few IRA men have died for Ireland whether it be from hunger strike, tortured to death or murdered by the Brits or their unoffical forces the loyalists ( though it has to be said the if the loyalists killed an IRA member it was more by chance as they thought they were just shooting at a random Catholic).
 

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I wouldn't think so, no. If you deliberately kill people it's your fault, is it not? Shouldn't adults be responsible for their own actions?
If someone deliberately ignoes a warning and others are killed, it's not the fault of those who ignored the warning ?
 

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I was 19 when this happened,

I remember being utterly repulsed by the Warrington bomb, and the crass comments by the provos regarding warnings etc.

Probably the first time I REALLY felt that these people were just pure evil. Rememberance day, 1987 was similarly disgusting, and impactful. but I was younger .

As was the televised murder of the two squaddies in 1988, the priest issuing the last rights over their bodies....

However, in 1993, There were glimmers of movement away from murder around that time, and this was seen as a horrific throwback.

This is why, it will take decades to rehabilitate SF as a party. The young, ignorant and brutalised might vote for ye, but that is all.
 

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If someone deliberately ignoes a warning and others are killed, it's not the fault of those who ignored the warning ?
No, I imagine most people would think it is the fault of the person doing the killing. Someone who ignored a warning would possibly be guilty of a lesser criminal charge of some kind, depending on the circumstances.
 

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Stupid argument. If I send two warnings that I'm going to go down to McDonalds on Grafton Street stand at the entrance at 12.30 pm and shoot someone and the cops ignore both warnings even though they are an agreed warning code*, it's not the coppers fault for ignoring it and deliberately putting people in the firing line ??


( i.e. the IRA used to use " Double X " as their name in warnings)
It was kerrygold for years.
 

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If someone deliberately ignoes a warning and others are killed, it's not the fault of those who ignored the warning ?
There was no warning for the Warrington bomb.
There was a 30 minute warning for a bomb somewhere in Liverpool, with no mention made of Warrington at all.
 

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Probably the first time I REALLY felt that these people were just pure evil. Rememberance day, 1987 was similarly disgusting, and impactful. but I was younger .

As was the televised murder of the two squaddies in 1988, the priest issuing the last rights over their bodies....
Off topic and discussed in length on another thread, but of course the fact that the 2 SAS men who driving into a republican funeral and drawing their guns just a day or two after Stones attack on the funeral in Milltown and the totally understandable reaction of the crowd didn't bother our peace loving frined here whatsoever :roll:. Off and hug a tree Gombeen man.
 
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