24th nov 2010 two irelands

wexfordman

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Struck Me this morning listening to the news on the way in to work! Two topics on morning Ireland

the first obviously was the four year plan, and the reduction in minimum wage!

The second story was of an art sale of bank of Ireland owned paintings Whig netted 1.5m, and the highest value painting being auctioned off for €55,000!

So on an extremely significant day we have on the one hand, individuals forking out huge sums of money or private art collections in the midst of a depression!

While on the other hand we havens proposal to reduce the incomes of the lowest paid in the country by over 10% equating to around €40 per week!


What a contrast!! €55,0000 on a bit of canvas v 40 quid a week taken from the poor!
 


Telemachus

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35 quid actually.
 

Aindriu

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35 quid actually.
How did ye arrive at that figure? Most companies in Ireland have at least a 37.5 hour week and many have a 40 hour week!
 

gerry87

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There's no use scorning wealthy people for spending. What should they be doing with their money?

They're speculating, they're taking a gamble off the hands of the Bank of Ireland and taking it on themselves, nothing wrong with that. If that 55k painting drops in price to 10k, then that 'wealthy person' just saved the taxpayer 45k.

Not condoning the cuts here, just there's no real point in contrasting the two.
 

HarshBuzz

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Art is a market, just like property, shares or commodities

Where there's distressed sales (like BoI's), market participants will seek to take advantage. Hardly anything surprising in that?
 

Anticipate

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My first niece was born yesterday, and there's no way to describe the divide in my emotions, on what was an amazingly significant day for the future of Ireland.

I wrote her this, I wanted to share it as i can't be there to see her, as i am one less statistic on the live register having emigrated.

Wednesday November 24th 2010.

Born big on a dark day
while men from old times
cut, snipped and slided
to the end of their ride.
And as the gloom glum
spin spun, and clung
as it died
You were born lovely,
black hair
and a smile.
I don't know your name yet
But i'll get to know
I know you're warmly welcomed
and you already glow.
Where you were born is beautiful
but now there's only one game
they played so hard its broken
and may not work again.
We're all in it together
But they think your to blame
So they'll tell you you owe them
although you never played.

Laugh little one and never be afraid
For from this day you were born,
to when you leave for the sky
No one will ever ever ever own you

Though your parents might try.

-----------------------

It's a shame we've come to this, im very worried about her future.
 

johnfás

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Art has always been a commodity market and a good Paul Henry would have sold for 80,000 a couple of years ago so it simply demonstrates a decline by 40% in the market.
 

idle tim

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There's no use scorning wealthy people for spending. What should they be doing with their money?

They're speculating, they're taking a gamble off the hands of the Bank of Ireland and taking it on themselves, nothing wrong with that. If that 55k painting drops in price to 10k, then that 'wealthy person' just saved the taxpayer 45k.

Not condoning the cuts here, just there's no real point in contrasting the two.
As far as i know several of the paintings were bought by the State,and will be handed over to the National Art Museum.
 

idle tim

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My first niece was born yesterday, and there's no way to describe the divide in my emotions, on what was an amazingly significant day for the future of Ireland.

I wrote her this, I wanted to share it as i can't be there to see her, as i am one less statistic on the live register having emigrated.

Wednesday November 24th 2010.

Born big on a dark day
while men from old times
cut, snipped and slided
to the end of their ride.
And as the gloom glum
spin spun, and clung
as it died
You were born lovely,
black hair
and a smile.
I don't know your name yet
But i'll get to know
I know you're warmly welcomed
and you already glow.
Where you were born is beautiful
but now there's only one game
they played so hard its broken
and may not work again.
We're all in it together
But they think your to blame
So they'll tell you you owe them
although you never played.

Laugh little one and never be afraid
For from this day you were born,
to when you leave for the sky
No one will ever ever ever own you

Though your parents might try.

-----------------------

It's a shame we've come to this, im very worried about her future.
Fantastic anticipate,despite the fact that it has brought me to tears.Congratulations to All.
 

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How long is the working week?
Yes Cat, I made a calculation mistake. Based on a 40 hour week its 40 quid yes.

Unlike a lot of people I can admit I am wrong.
 

vamboroolz

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My first niece was born yesterday, and there's no way to describe the divide in my emotions, on what was an amazingly significant day for the future of Ireland.

I wrote her this, I wanted to share it as i can't be there to see her, as i am one less statistic on the live register having emigrated.

Wednesday November 24th 2010.

Born big on a dark day
while men from old times
cut, snipped and slided
to the end of their ride.
And as the gloom glum
spin spun, and clung
as it died
You were born lovely,
black hair
and a smile.
I don't know your name yet
But i'll get to know
I know you're warmly welcomed
and you already glow.
Where you were born is beautiful
but now there's only one game
they played so hard its broken
and may not work again.
We're all in it together
But they think your to blame
So they'll tell you you owe them
although you never played.

Laugh little one and never be afraid
For from this day you were born,
to when you leave for the sky
No one will ever ever ever own you

Though your parents might try.

-----------------------

It's a shame we've come to this, im very worried about her future.
I'm not really a poetry person but I found that quite moving. Thanks.
 


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