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27 Irish women availed of late term abortions on disability grounds. Pro-choice or eugenics?


White Horse

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A significant number of Irish women are having very late abortions in the UK because their child will suffer some form of disability, the Irish Independent has learnt.They are having the abortions after the normal legal limit of 24 weeks into their pregnancy under a special exemption, health authorities confirmed.
A British parliament inquiry next week will learn that 27 women from the Republic had these late abortions in 2010 and 2011 on the grounds that the foetus they were carrying was at risk of physical or mental disability.

Late abortions for 27 Irish women on disability grounds - Independent.ie

A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?

Also for those who favour allowing abortions specifically due to the baby being disabled, which disabilities should be grounds for an abortion up to birth?
 
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Those heel príck cards which the current P.ie poll is on may at some point in the future allow parents to analyse their DNA to weigh up risks before conception but alas, they are being destroyed.
 

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A significant number of Irish women are having very late abortions in the UK because their child will suffer some form of disability, the Irish Independent has learnt.They are having the abortions after the normal legal limit of 24 weeks into their pregnancy under a special exemption, health authorities confirmed.
A British parliament inquiry next week will learn that 27 women from the Republic had these late abortions in 2010 and 2011 on the grounds that the foetus they were carrying was at risk of physical or mental disability.

Late abortions for 27 Irish women on disability grounds - Independent.ie

A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?

Also for those who favour allowing abortions specifically due to the baby being disabled, which disabilities should be grounds for an abortion up to birth?


Having the traits of Bertie Aherne
 

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A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?
My opinion is that this is disgusting. However it is the obvious end product of as culture that sees the fetus as expendable as opposed to a life.
 

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A significant number of Irish women are having very late abortions in the UK because their child will suffer some form of disability, the Irish Independent has learnt.They are having the abortions after the normal legal limit of 24 weeks into their pregnancy under a special exemption, health authorities confirmed.
A British parliament inquiry next week will learn that 27 women from the Republic had these late abortions in 2010 and 2011 on the grounds that the foetus they were carrying was at risk of physical or mental disability.

Late abortions for 27 Irish women on disability grounds - Independent.ie

A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?

Also for those who favour allowing abortions specifically due to the baby being disabled, which disabilities should be grounds for an abortion up to birth?
You want to force people who have no means to look after them to give birth to disabled children?
Profoundly disabled children required 24/7 care which not everyone is capable of providing.
They shouldn't be made to do it if they don't want to and can't face it.
And it's none of your f*cking business anyway.
Any woman who wants an abortion at any time in her pregnancy and for any reason should have the right to have an abortion.
Why do you give a sh*t about the private lives of people you never met in your life and whose lives don't interfere with yours?
Why can't you f*ck off and get a life you ignorant bigoted fanatical gobsh*te?

This sums up how I feel about stupid motherf*cking retards like you.

[video=youtube;U6MUmU9XUb0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6MUmU9XUb0[/video]
 
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My opinion is that this is disgusting. However it is the obvious end product of as culture that sees the fetus as expendable as opposed to a life.
Ever been in the position of having to make such a decision?
 

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You want to force people who have no means to look after them to give birth to disabled children?
Profoundly disabled children required 24/7 care which not everyone is capable of providing.
They shouldn't be made to do it if they don't want to and can't face it.
And it's none of your f*cking business anyway.
Any woman who wants an abortion at any time in her pregnancy and for any reason should have the right to have an abortion.
Why do you give a sh*t about the private lives of people you never met in your life and whose lives don't interfere with yours?
Why can't you f*ck off and get a life you ignorant bigoted fanatical gobsh*te?
No concern for the babies with a disability?

Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?
 
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No concern for the babies with a disability?

Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?
In some cases the disability *is* a life sentence.
 

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depends on the disability
anencephaly, it's up to the parents
cleft palate , no
 

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No concern for the babies with a disability?

Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?
Who are you to force a complete stranger to go through the trauma of having a profoundly physically and mentally handicapped child?
What point is there to inflicting that misery on a woman to force her give birth to that child and then depend on charity - services for the disable in case you didn't f*cking notice are non-f*cking-existent in much of this country - not to mention to miserable existence you inflict on that child?
Why would you force a woman to give birth to a child that has only hours or days or weeks to live?
F*CK OFF!

You think women just decide - "Hey I'm going to have my hair done and then I'm going to have a scrape and then I'm gong to have my nails done and they I am going to celebrate having a scrape by going out and f*cking the first guy I meet!" - like as if its nothing?

You are a stupid motherf*cker.
 

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What a strange world we live in.

A disability can be celebrated in the Special Olympics but also the reason for singling out a baby for termination.
 

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You think women just decide - "Hey I'm going to have my hair done and then I'm going to have a scrape and then I'm gong to have my nails done and they I am going to celebrate having a scrape by going out and f*cking the first guy I meet!" - like as if its nothing?
Good point, well made.
 

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No concern for the babies with a disability?

Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?
The Special Olympics forced many in the UK to take a hard look at themselves and their discriminatory attitudes towards the disabled.

Legalised abortion on grounds of a risk of being born disabled is nothing less than institutional discrimination. It is a very clear statement that the disabled are not wanted in UK society and if ridding itself of unwanted people means killing them at the earliest opportunity then so be it.

To paraphrase Scrooge - " If the disabled are going to die, (or become a burden) we had better hurry up and make it happen",
 

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What a strange world we live in.

A disability can be celebrated in the Special Olympics but also the reason for singling out a baby for termination.
You want to have disable child? Fine. F*ck off and have one.
Other people can't deal with having a child who is going to helpless until the day they die.
They would rather avoid it and that's what abortion is f*cking for.
Let them have their choice and you can have your choice and you can mind your own business.
 

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Oh, good, another abortion thread.

I thought P.ie needed one.

Perhaps we could have a "rate my abortion thread" facility to make an excellent site even more excellent?
 

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Oh, good, another abortion thread.

I thought P.ie needed one.

Perhaps we could have a "rate my abortion thread" facility to make an excellent site even more excellent?
This is going to be the best abortion thread ever!:lol:
 

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No concern for the babies with a disability?

Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?
Don't waste your time replying to Hitch 22.

He supports abortion right up to birth for healthy babies so he's hardly going to make an exception for those with disabilities.
 

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? I have been saying this for years, gay genes will be detected in the future and bye bye liberal logic ? the CC may have a point when mentioning the "Culture of Death" which is enabled by liberal ideology.

So in the liberal ideology, abortion on demand is no problemo,

1) Abortion for convenience ?
2) Abortion for curable defects
3) Abortion for gender (it happens)
4) Abortion by a surrogate ? why not ? it really fooks up the liberals
5) Abortion by sexuality ? the next logical step for this culture cos they certainly do not care about unborn human life so why should an unborns sexuality matter?

You only have to look at the main advocates, Bacik and Daly ? not exactly leaders with problem solving ideas, their only ability is ? ? Jaysus I cannot think of any ability or talent whatsoever they posses ? none , just moaning and moaning and moaning.
 

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The Special Olympics forced many in the UK to take a hard look at themselves and their discriminatory attitudes towards the disabled.

Legalised abortion on grounds of a risk of being born disabled is nothing less than institutional discrimination. It is a very clear statement that the disabled are not wanted in UK society and if ridding itself of unwanted people means killing them at the earliest opportunity then so be it.

To paraphrase Scrooge - " If the disabled are going to die, (or become a burden) we had better hurry up and make it happen",
you're mixing up the special and para olympics
 

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A late abortion would be a nightmarish decision for any woman/ parent to have to make.

But when you see a severely disabled child clinging to life only by means of intense medical intervention, Unable to eat , sit , stand , talk or withstand infection, or ever to have any sort of independent existence, one wonders if nature intended their survival at all.
 

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