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3,000 new public sector jobs for the longterm unemployed!


Bobcolebrooke

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3,000 new public sector jobs for the long-term unemployed!

Minister Phil Hogan has announced a new scheme which will see long-term unemployed people who are unemployed for more than 2 years, provided with Jobs in the Local Authorities.

2000 of the jobs will be in place withing 6 months with a further 1,000 jobs being filled by the end of the year.

This is a great opportunity for long-term unemployed people who find it difficult to gain employment if they have been out of work for a long time.

The final details of the scheme have yet to be put in place, and details of rates of pay and working hours have yet to emerge.

It just does not make sense that the State pays people to do nothing when many people could make a contribution to their communities and have some level of self actualisation doing useful work, and gaining experience.

Many local authorities are very short staffed and are strained to meet demand for such tasks as minor road maintenance, street cleaning, and grass cutting etc.

About 31,000 people are employed by local authorities who spend some 41% of their turnover on salary costs.
16% of payroll costs are spent running Corporate Services.

Just 7,000 staff are deployed on Road Works, by all our Local Authorities. Many new schemes could be undertaken with this untapped resource. The greatest critism of the proposal is that it is limited to only 3,000 individuals. Many more people could be assisted if the scheme was expanded but it is an excellent start. Hopefully it will be expanded to accommodate 30,000 people.

Long-term unemployed to be given jobs as council workers - National News - Independent.ie
 
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Looks like a good idea.
 

R3volution_R3ady

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3,000 new public sector jobs?

lol.
 

Fr.Ted Crilly

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3,000 new public sector jobs for the long-term unemployed!

Minister Phil Hogan has announced a new scheme which will see long-term unemployed people who are unemployed for more than 2 years, provided with Jobs in the Local Authorities.

2000 of the jobs will be in place withing 6 months with a further 1,000 jobs being filled by the end of the year.

This is a great opportunity for long-term unemployed people who find it difficult to gain employment if they have been out of work for a long time.

The final details of the scheme have yet to be put in place, and details of rates of pay and working hours have yet to emerge.

It just does not make sense that the State pays people to do nothing when many people could make a contribution to their communities and have some level of self actualisation doing useful work, and gaining experience.

Many local authorities are very short staffed and are strained to meet demand for such tasks as minor road maintenance, street cleaning, and grass cutting etc.

Long-term unemployed to be given jobs as council workers - National News - Independent.ie
Only 97,000 to go.
Suppose if they increase the PS numbers to 400,000 they'll have kept one of their promises.
It'll be interesting to see what sh1tty rates these 3000 will be put on and what the mighty SIPTU have to say about it.
Desperation is setting in now, no doubt about it.
 

ShoutingIsLeadership

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People aren't paid to do nothing.

Come March, will the last cabinet, who are living off their juicy pensions but haven't reached the normal retirement age, be forced into these council jobs? I'm sure their 'going away' money is far more than those on the dole have received since the last election.

Can't be paying people to do nothing now, can we?
 

hiding behind a poster

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Only 97,000 to go.
Suppose if they increase the PS numbers to 400,000 they'll have kept one of their promises.
It'll be interesting to see what sh1tty rates these 3000 will be put on and what the mighty SIPTU have to say about it.
That's just the kind of optimistic, can-do approach the country needs. Congratulations.
 

damus

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3,000 new public sector jobs for the long-term unemployed!

Minister Phil Hogan has announced a new scheme which will see long-term unemployed people who are unemployed for more than 2 years, provided with Jobs in the Local Authorities.

2000 of the jobs will be in place withing 6 months with a further 1,000 jobs being filled by the end of the year.

This is a great opportunity for long-term unemployed people who find it difficult to gain employment if they have been out of work for a long time.

The final details of the scheme have yet to be put in place, and details of rates of pay and working hours have yet to emerge.

It just does not make sense that the State pays people to do nothing when many people could make a contribution to their communities and have some level of self actualisation doing useful work, and gaining experience.

Many local authorities are very short staffed and are strained to meet demand for such tasks as minor road maintenance, street cleaning, and grass cutting etc.

Long-term unemployed to be given jobs as council workers - National News - Independent.ie
So lets see we've got TUS, CE, Jobsbridge and now we've got another 3,000 places on a new local authority social employment programme and that's in addition to JI and the last SEP. So how many of these participants does Joan expect to actually make the transition from welfare to work? Will these participants secure paid employment in LA's on completion of their placement or will they go straight back on to the dole queues?
 

R3volution_R3ady

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That's just the kind of optimistic, can-do approach the country needs. Congratulations.
NO point in smiling when it's raining shite. The only optimism I have is that people are finally waking up to you lot.

Why throw a person in prison for earning money and delivering a service?
 

dizillusioned

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So basically the long term unemployed who in the main are Council tenants who do not pay the housing tax will be given jobs?.... interesting...

I would hate to see the T's and C's of these jobs. However, if someone long term unemployed wants to do this, good luck to them. I just hope this is not going to be held against them if they do not want to do the council's job. Funny how 3000 extra people will not displace or take other people's work in the council.... ahem...
 

Fr.Ted Crilly

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That's just the kind of optimistic, can-do approach the country needs. Congratulations.
Oh come on FFS, they can't/won't do anything to stimulate the domestic economy and under CPA 2 they'll call for redundancies in the PS and then they announce this BS.
It's a scam, another way to muddy the waters.
 

damus

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Only 97,000 to go.
Suppose if they increase the PS numbers to 400,000 they'll have kept one of their promises.
It'll be interesting to see what sh1tty rates these 3000 will be put on and what the mighty SIPTU have to say about it.
Desperation is setting in now, no doubt about it.
It's going to be part of the National Employment Action Plan and I suspect it's going to be social welfare rates plus €50 or whatever they get on CE/TUS.
 

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People aren't paid to do nothing.

Come March, will the last cabinet, who are living off their juicy pensions but haven't reached the normal retirement age, be forced into these council jobs? I'm sure their 'going away' money is far more than those on the dole have received since the last election.

Can't be paying people to do nothing now, can we?
What last cabinet meeting?, if there was an election FG could win an overall majority, even die hard FFers that I know in Cork have a begrudging admiration for them....one is even related ti Bertie ffs.
 

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R3volution_R3ady

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Are you saying public service jobs are worthless?
What the government are engaged in is worthless. Less than worthless.
 

Bobcolebrooke

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Its real jobs we want, this is FAS all over again.
Anything that helps longterm enemployed people to get back into work is a good thing. Longterm unemployed people find it very difficult to get back into the workforce. It will help many to gain positive references to allow people choice in employment.
 

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Presumably it will be optional. Otherwise....


 

R3volution_R3ady

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Anything that helps longterm enemployed people to get back into work is a good thing. Longterm unemployed people find it very difficult to get back into the workforce. It will help many to gain positive references to allow people choice in employment.
Ireland has a massive public service as is. We're running huge deficits already. It's time we lived within our means. The problem is that people don't have a choice in employment.
 

edifice.

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3,000 new public sector jobs for the long-term unemployed!

Minister Phil Hogan has announced a new scheme which will see long-term unemployed people who are unemployed for more than 2 years, provided with Jobs in the Local Authorities.

2000 of the jobs will be in place withing 6 months with a further 1,000 jobs being filled by the end of the year.

This is a great opportunity for long-term unemployed people who find it difficult to gain employment if they have been out of work for a long time.

The final details of the scheme have yet to be put in place, and details of rates of pay and working hours have yet to emerge.

It just does not make sense that the State pays people to do nothing when many people could make a contribution to their communities and have some level of self actualisation doing useful work, and gaining experience.

Many local authorities are very short staffed and are strained to meet demand for such tasks as minor road maintenance, street cleaning, and grass cutting etc.

About 31,000 people are employed by local authorities who spend some 41% of their turnover on salary costs.
16% of payroll costs are spent running Corporate Services.

Just 7,000 staff are deployed on Road Works

Long-term unemployed to be given jobs as council workers - National News - Independent.ie
That simply confirms, if it's the case, that its a scheme to massage the unemployment statistics. I've no problem with the general idea but at least apply a modicum of original and productive thinking. Surely to Christ our greatest asset should be applied to greater things?
 

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