32CSM On Student's Protest

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The following is a description of events from members of the 32CSM who took part in the Student's Protest in Dublin.

The 32csm in Dublin would like to congratulate all the students and activists who joined in the protest on November 3rd against the increase in registration fees. The 32csm were involved in the last campaign to oppose the introduction of fees and we have continuously lent support to students. The march on Wednesday was to show not only the anger that exists amongst students, already struggling in many cases to make ends meet, but also the frustration amongst activists with their representatives in the USI.

Our members joined the independent left wing bloc at the invite of Free Education for Everyone and Students in Solidarity. These students felt like us that a march without action would achieve little and that self serving speeches made by USI representatives with close links to Fianna Fail were not the true voice of the student movement. It was because of this discontent that students bravely broke away in large numbers from the main march to march to the gates of Leinster House to express their anger. The 32csm, eirigi, and the SWP amongst others joined the Students in Solidarity rather than in any attempt to hijack the protest. The reality is that the independent student bloc was organised by and for students who wished to have their voices heard.

Given that the 32csm Dublin branch has several members in third level education it was imperative for us to support such actions. The march then moved onto the Department of Finance where a large group of protestors including ten members of the 32csm managed to break through garda lines and occupied the building. At no point during the occupation did any official from either the department or the gardai approach the students to ask them what their grievances were. Instead the gardai aggressively manhandled protestors both inside and outside until the riot squad showed up. At that point protestors were thrown from the building whilst the gardai punched and kicked them. 32csm members fought back along with our republican and left wing comrades and the solidarity shown in the face of garda brutality was an example that should be followed in the future.

We would like to make clear however that the violence that did occur was initiated by the gardai who attacked a peaceful sit down protest with batons, before charging on horseback into the middle of a crowd of students, many of whom were already injured from earlier garda attacks. Responsibility for the violence lies with the gardai and with USI who by their lack of support for the action ensured that students would not have sufficient numbers to withstand the attacks.

The 32csm opposes the proposed increase in registration fees because we recognize that this is merely third level fees being introduced by stealth; we oppose it because it is another attack by this government on the vulnerable whilst the rich are protected. The neo liberal agenda that is behind such moves will be fought at every turn by the 32csm and we will not be dissuaded by any number of garda batons or media distortions. victory to the students and workers!
Dublin 32CSM
 


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Supporters of terrorism and sectarianism. The thread makes an interesting addition to the line of up usual suspects.

I very much doubt the USI will reciprocate the sentiment especially as the main organisers of the event they are an actual target too:

Our members joined the independent left wing bloc at the invite of Free Education for Everyone and Students in Solidarity. These students felt like us that a march without action would achieve little and that self serving speeches made by USI representatives with close links to Fianna Fail were not the true voice of the student movement.
It is however confirmation that violence was planned.
 

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It is however confirmation that violence was planned.
Doubtless when the pseudo-republicans are involved how could it be any other way. However judging by the video I saw the Gardai seemed to overact.
 

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I don't know how anyone couldn't laugh out loud at this.

The march on Wednesday was to show not only the anger that exists amongst students, already struggling in many cases to make ends meet, but also the frustration amongst activists with their representatives in the USI.
Ah yes. Godbless the loons, any time any lefty party or group make ANY headway at all, they're immediately attacked for not being Left enough.

Our members joined the independent left wing bloc at the invite of Free Education for Everyone and Students in Solidarity. These students felt like us that a march without action would achieve little and that self serving speeches made by USI representatives with close links to Fianna Fail were not the true voice of the student movement. It was because of this discontent that students bravely broke away in large numbers from the main march to march to the gates of Leinster House to express their anger. The 32csm, eirigi, and the SWP amongst others joined the Students in Solidarity rather than in any attempt to hijack the protest. The reality is that the independent student bloc was organised by and for students who wished to have their voices heard.
"So we were invited by a fringe group who wanted to hijack the march organised by the UCI right? Our friends wanted to hijack this one because they couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery, and no one likes them because they smell like feet. Sure tens of thousands of marchers agreed with the UCI's way of doing things, but **** it, when have we cared about the will of the majority like?

Then we broke away from the main march. But we didn't mean to hijack the march ok?"

Fantastic :D

Given that the 32csm Dublin branch has several members in third level education it was imperative for us to support such actions.
Now "several" is what people say when it's more than 2 but less than a dozen.

The march then moved onto the Department of Finance where a large group of protestors including ten members of the 32csm managed to break through garda lines and occupied the building.
"Then as part of our premeditated efforts to hijack the march, our members broke the law as they had planned to do. HUZZAH!"

At no point during the occupation did any official from either the department or the gardai approach the students to ask them what their grievances were. Instead the gardai aggressively manhandled protestors both inside and outside until the riot squad showed up.
You know, I had this problem once too. There was a burgler in my neighbour's house, but rather than y'know, TALK to the poor guy, try to find out what motivated him in life, what brought him to this place, the nazi police just ARRESTED him. Like he was a CRIMINAL. For shame.

At that point protestors were thrown from the building whilst the gardai punched and kicked them. 32csm members fought back along with our republican and left wing comrades and the solidarity shown in the face of garda brutality was an example that should be followed in the future.
"Then we resisted the lawful action of the Gardai and there was a scuffle"

We would like to make clear however that the violence that did occur was initiated by the gardai who attacked a peaceful sit down protest with batons, before charging on horseback into the middle of a crowd of students, many of whom were already injured from earlier garda attacks. Responsibility for the violence lies with the gardai and with USI who by their lack of support for the action ensured that students would not have sufficient numbers to withstand the attacks.
"During our efforts to hijack the march and commit crimes, the Gardai were forced to move in. Innocent people were hurt in the process. This is all the fault of the Gardai for upholding the law, and those bastard innocent bystanders for not breaking the law with us"

The 32csm opposes the proposed increase in registration fees because we recognize that this is merely third level fees being introduced by stealth; we oppose it because it is another attack by this government on the vulnerable whilst the rich are protected. The neo liberal agenda that is behind such moves will be fought at every turn by the 32csm and we will not be dissuaded by any number of garda batons or media distortions. victory to the students and workers!
"We'd like to finish up by reiterating that we're a criminal organisation who will persist with our crimes"

Also: Wow do they make Eirgri look like asses. This pretty much directly contradicts their statement yesterday.
 

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The 32CSM believe that killing people because they come form a different religion to you is brave and honest and just, but woe betide any Garda that brings a baton down on someone's head ... that's a crime!
 

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No it isn't it.
I quoted what you poted from 32CSM, in their own words. A peaceful protest was not enough in the eyes of certain extremeists, that much is obvious both in the events that happened and now in the statement released by 32CSM. if 32CSm have a problem with that then I suggest they employ someone other than an idiot to write their press releases.

Those who happily post up 32CSM self congratulatory propoganda might also bother actually reading the stuff:

Our members joined the independent left wing bloc at the invite of Free Education for Everyone and Students in Solidarity. These students felt like us that a march without action would achieve little and that self serving speeches made by USI representatives with close links to Fianna Fail were not the true voice of the student movement.
It was supposed to be a peaceful protest march. What sort of 'action' was the post referring too?
 

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The 32CSM believe that killing people because they come form a different religion to you is brave and honest and just,
There's plenty of reasons to criticise and even take the piss out of them without making up rubbish
 

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I quoted what you poted from 32CSM, in their own words. A peaceful protest was not enough in the eyes of certain extremeists, that much is obvious both in the events that happened and now in the statement released by 32CSM. if 32CSm have a problem with that then I suggest they employ someone other than an idiot to write their press releases.

Those who happily post up 32CSM self congratulatory propoganda might also bother actually reading the stuff:

It was supposed to be a peaceful protest march. What sort of 'action' was the post referring too?

Where does it say that?
Given that YOU say that.

So a sit down protest say, as a form of direct action, is violent?
 

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This just confirms what I've heard that the supposed "students" protest was totally highjacked by the lowest level of scum this country has; people like the 32CSM, Eirigi, SWP etc, groupsd wiothout an iota of a democratic mandate and only there to cause trouble. The USI needs to be a lot more care of the people it associates with or allows on its demonstrations.
 

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The USI needs to be a lot more care of the people it associates with or allows on its demonstrations.
It would be virtually impossible for USI to prevent hangers-on like this to turn up at a major public event like this.

Real pity. Otherwise the march was a great success.
 

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This just confirms what I've heard that the supposed "students" protest was totally highjacked by the lowest level of scum this country has; people like the 32CSM, Eirigi, SWP etc, groupsd wiothout an iota of a democratic mandate and only there to cause trouble. The USI needs to be a lot more care of the people it associates with or allows on its demonstrations.
What the hell are you on about? 25,000 to 40,000 students protest. Scumbags bring a couple of hundred, who leave the main march, along with some bona fide marchers (maybe 2,000 all together) and go to the Dept. of Finance. What do you suggest the USI do differently?
 

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What the hell are you on about? 25,000 to 40,000 students protest. Scumbags bring a couple of hundred, who leave the main march, along with some bona fide marchers (maybe 2,000 all together) and go to the Dept. of Finance. What do you suggest the USI do differently?

Ask everyone on the march to show their USI membership cards.
 
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So when there is a protest next month or the month after that I might like to participate in, I'll stay at home because if I attend I'm just furthering their cause not mine.

It's called hi-jacking.
 

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Ask everyone on the march to show their USI membership cards.
When I was a student in the RTCs many moons ago, "radicals" were not permitted from participating in any Union events, and meetings were stopped until they left.
The union leadership needs to remove the rose tinted glasses.
 


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