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3516 Hip Replacements being recalled.


On_The_Far_Right

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On RTE this eveing 3516 Hip Replacement joints being realled in Ireland.

RTÉ News: 3,516 Irish had recalled hip device fitted

Typical this breaks on a friday evening when most Ortheapeadic Teams are off for weekend!!!

Ive had two of these hip replacements and one knee replacment and am due to have another knee knee put in next month.

This is bound to put massive pressure on HSE and medical teams as revision surgery is more costly and with higher risks. Not to mention recovery time, further pain and additional rehabilitation.

DePuy.com | ASR? Hip System Recall Guide

I have to say my hips are great, I really dont want them recalled :-(
 

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If you had a "full" hip replacement you should be OK. If you had a "resurfacing"..you "might" be in trouble.


Issue isn't really faulty devices...this happens....shouldn't but it does.
However...it does appear that Ireland was the last in the loop to discover the problem....

IMB defends checking of faulty hip product

QUOTE.....The UK authorities had already organised a patient follow-up for the same type of metal on-metal hip replacement devices nearly six months ago, it has emerged....END QUOTE....
 

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Yeah I had two total hip replacements.

Im really feeling for anyone who will have to go through these operations, even if it is just resurfacing. Recover is hard, rehabilitation is hard and this is going to be a massive burden on patients, their families, doctors, physiotherapists, OTs, HSE homehelp etc at a time when for the want of another phrase "the cupboard is bare"
 

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You should be Ok so....TG!

Having to go through a revision is not easy though..and you spend longer in hospital too..

Doesn't explain the delay in the IMB/HSE/DOHC recognising the problem though as quoted in the article...

But sure why is that a surprise??
 

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"Ireland, unlike many other countries including the UK, does not have an "early warning" tracking system that can regularly monitor the performance of replacement joints in the hospital service."

This reminds of a programme I saw. When stainless steel was first used it was built to stand pressure of X pounds and people kept coming back to have them replaced. It turned out that the joint had more pressure than whatever X pounds was.

Why does Ireland not have an early warning tracking system?
 

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Yeah its crazy we dont have early warning system.

Its gonna be hard for so many people though. I was 30/31 when Id my ops, 35 when knee was done. But in cappagh so many patients are lederly, and I mean 80's / 90's and it could potentially kill someone having to go through bi-lateral operations and recovery.

Im gobsmacked by the scale of it.

I bet my next knee op will be postponed in sept/oct because so many revisions wil have to be done :-( more morphine please :p
 

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"Ireland, unlike many other countries including the UK, does not have an "early warning" tracking system that can regularly monitor the performance of replacement joints in the hospital service."

This reminds of a programme I saw. When stainless steel was first used it was built to stand pressure of X pounds and people kept coming back to have them replaced. It turned out that the joint had more pressure than whatever X pounds was.

Why does Ireland not have an early warning tracking system?
Ain't that the question?

One would have hoped we might have learned after the Hep C et al...that we might be better off putting in adequate monitoring.

We have had numerous reports..of course...the last being "Building a Culture of patient Safety"...published in 2008 or the Madden report as it was known.
The establishment of HIQA was one result....BUT.........

An awful lot was not implemented.......!

There was a commission set up though...(in 2008)...so thats good!!.....

Patient safety - radical reforms proposed



Opps thats not so good!!!...thats what was in her original report!!!....(in 2008...????)


SIGH!!
 

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Ah sure if we ignore it, it'll go away, wont it? HSE spokesman.
That is an HSE matter. There is nothing I or my department can do! Mary Harney spits out usual excuse.
 

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If you had a "full" hip replacement you should be OK. If you had a "resurfacing"..you "might" be in trouble.


Issue isn't really faulty devices...this happens....shouldn't but it does.
However...it does appear that Ireland was the last in the loop to discover the problem....

IMB defends checking of faulty hip product

QUOTE.....The UK authorities had already organised a patient follow-up for the same type of metal on-metal hip replacement devices nearly six months ago, it has emerged....END QUOTE....
It could become an issue going forward Spidermom.

The Associated Press: CEO: J&J let down public, must work to build trust


This week was particularly bad for the world's biggest health-products maker. J&J received a warning from the Food and Drug Administration about illegal marketing of some hip and knee implants and two more recalls: one involving two other hip implant products and one involving contact lenses sold in Asia and Europe that stung some users' eyes.
Asked if he can assure consumers there won't be any more recalls, Weldon said, "I don't think you can ever say 'never' to anything."
"We're doing everything we can anyplace in Johnson & Johnson to make sure this never happens again," he added.
 

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Jaysus, if you were a horse you would have been shot a long time ago. :p
LOL I know, its almost comical though if it wasnt so serious LOL. After I get knee done this autumn 2011 will be two new shoulders. Im afraid to go swimming in case I sink :p But I get great craic out of security staff in Heathrow, Paris and Moscow. I quite often be strip scanned LOL, except now in Moscow the use xray machines.

My only concern is if the joint ever start squeeking like a rusty door. You'd hear me coming a mile off LOL
 

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AYE...seems to be though when a third party becomes involved in maufacture or packaging...sub-contracting AIN'T always cheaper!!


This scare has a particular Irish component.....Satellite Links Whitfield Clinic to Hamburg | Munster Express Online

QUOTE.....In 1999, Tadgh O’Sullivan pioneered the hip resurfacing procedure in Ireland using a third generation implant before going on to design the fourth generation ASR implant, enhanced by currently available scientific engineering and clinical knowledge.....END QUOTE...
Pity to see one of our best orthopods associated with this...
(was on Drivetime this evening..if anyone caught it!!)
 

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LOL I know, its almost comical though if it wasnt so serious LOL. After I get knee done this autumn 2011 will be two new shoulders. Im afraid to go swimming in case I sink :p But I get great craic out of security staff in Heathrow, Paris and Moscow. I quite often be strip scanned LOL, except now in Moscow the use xray machines.

My only concern is if the joint ever start squeeking like a rusty door. You'd hear me coming a mile off LOL
Roll on the days when u can have a brain transplant into a young body.
 

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LOL I know, its almost comical though if it wasnt so serious LOL. After I get knee done this autumn 2011 will be two new shoulders. Im afraid to go swimming in case I sink :p But I get great craic out of security staff in Heathrow, Paris and Moscow. I quite often be strip scanned LOL, except now in Moscow the use xray machines.

My only concern is if the joint ever start squeeking like a rusty door. You'd hear me coming a mile off LOL
ARA...knees and hips....Bah Humbug...AFTER you have shoulders..WE can do your Elbows ...THEN you will truly be bionic!!......:)...we can rebuild you!!!

(Well done you!!!!)
 

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If it's a worldwide recall, I would assume the manufacturer will have to cover the costs. It doesn't sound like it's something that the HSE could have prevented.

Although, you'd wonder are they over-using a single supplier ?

I wouldn't like to have a large number of shares in that company though. I would imagine they'll be facing a LOT of law suits! It seems they're a division of Johnson and Johnson.
 
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This isn't a HSE problem! they have to clean up this mess hope the company will be picking up the tab!
 

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ARA...knees and hips....Bah Humbug...AFTER you have shoulders..WE can do your Elbows ...THEN you will truly be bionic!!......:)...we can rebuild you!!!

(Well done you!!!!)
Ummm elbows LOL hey now u mention it Ive only 130 degrees in them!!! Might get them done too. Jaysus you'd easily know I loved grapes, doing all this to myself to get visitors in hospital LOL.

My wonky joints have prevented us getting married cause we cant plan anything without "the body" screwing it up. But once its all done, its done. At least when I pass on I can be recycled almost entirely. John Gormley should be happy about that :D
 

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On_The_Far_Right I just realised that your name does not represent your political stance ... just your stance :p
 

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I have a side question regarding hip, knee and any joint replacement done in Ireland.

Does one have to go on a waiting list to have the surgery done, or is wham bam once the diagnosis is made that surgery is deemed necessary ?
 
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