5 June 1967: Israel attacks Egypt and the Six Day War begins - 50 years ago today

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5 June 1967: Israel attacks Egypt and the Six Day War begins - 50 years ago today

In one of the most stunning and successful campaigns of Modern Times the tiny State of Israel attacked firstly Egypt, then Jordan and lastly Syria and crushed them, seizing vast swathes of territory and triggering a massive Refugeee Crises that destabilised neighbouring States

But the cost was high as while initially Israel had the support of the Western Powers it lost huge ground elsewhere esp with the Soviet Union and its satellites and also in Africa

Also while still militarily impregnable to been overrun it can still never relax its guard

The shadow of 1967 is still with us today

- as the streets of London have just shown us

- once the Jihadi is out of the bottle

- its not so easy to get him back in again........
 


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This action occured at the height of the Vietnam war. So was completely overshadowed. That said it was an act of aggression. And probably fatally undermined the US effort to hold South Vietnam.
Why did the Israelis feel it necessery to invade neighbouring states? I mean the Egyptian army got it's revenge in 1973- during the Yom Kippur offensive
This aggression by the Israelis caused 50 years of bloodshed in the Middle East and Europe particularily. It also in my opinion, helped the Viet Cong in South east Asia.
 

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Consider the U.S. reaction to Israel’s conquest of the Sinai in 1956 and in 1967. In 1956, the U.S. strongly opposed that action. Eisenhower and Dulles were quite forthright and outspoken about it a few days before the presidential election, allegedly a time when political considerations are paramount. Political considerations aside, the U.S. openly compelled Israel to withdraw from the Sinai, not caring about its impact in the presidential election. In contrast, the U.S. supported Israel’s conquest of the Sinai in 1967 and has been backing it since that time.

What was the difference between 1956 and 1967? In 1956, Israel was allied with France and England who were trying to reestablish some position of significance in the Middle East, believing still they had some role to play in regulating the affairs of the region. Since Israel was collaborating with rivals of the U.S. in the region, the conquest became illegitimate.

In 1967, Israel was closely allied to the U.S. directly. As a result, the conquest was quite legitimate. U.S. government support of Israel is more or less in accord with the American perception of Israel’s strength. The stronger Israel becomes, the more it is able to assist the U.S. in maintaining control of the region, so the more the U.S. will support it. Though the pretense has always been that we’re supporting Israel because it is in danger, the opposite would be a much more accurate statement. American support for Israel is contingent upon its strength and ability to aid in maintaining American domination of the Middle East.
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This action occured at the height of the Vietnam war. So was completely overshadowed. That said it was an act of aggression. And probably fatally undermined the US effort to hold South Vietnam.
Why did the Israelis feel it necessery to invade neighbouring states? I mean the Egyptian army got it's revenge in 1973- during the Yom Kippur offensive
This aggression by the Israelis caused 50 years of bloodshed in the Middle East and Europe particularily. It also in my opinion, helped the Viet Cong in South east Asia.
It was a huge international event at the time.
 

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This action occured at the height of the Vietnam war. So was completely overshadowed. That said it was an act of aggression. And probably fatally undermined the US effort to hold South Vietnam.
Why did the Israelis feel it necessery to invade neighbouring states? I mean the Egyptian army got it's revenge in 1973- during the Yom Kippur offensive
This aggression by the Israelis caused 50 years of bloodshed in the Middle East and Europe particularily. It also in my opinion, helped the Viet Cong in South east Asia.
There is fault and blame on both sides. Nasser was warned that closing the Straits of Tiran would be considered an act of war. He did it anyway and massed his troops on the border.

Israel annihilated the numerically superior Arab forces. Jordan stupidly chose to attack, leading to the seizure of East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The ramifications are still being felt today, most especially for the Palestinian people in whose name their Arab 'allies' claimed to act.
 

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There is fault and blame on both sides. Nasser was warned that closing the Straits of Tiran would be considered an act of war. He did it anyway and massed his troops on the border.

Israel annihilated the numerically superior Arab forces. Jordan stupidly chose to attack, leading to the seizure of East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The ramifications are still being felt today, most especially for the Palestinian people in whose name their Arab 'allies' claimed to act.
After being lied to by Nasser. Nasser hid the fact that 80% of his Air Force had been destroyed.
 

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In one of the most stunning and successful campaigns of Modern Times the tiny State of Israel attacked firstly Egypt, then Jordan and lastly Syria and crushed them, seizing vast swathes of territory and triggering a massive Refugeee Crises that destabilised neighbouring States
You typed this with an erection didn't you, just picturing all those dead A-Rabs getting disintegrated by badass Israel.

Anyway, don't actually think it's that impressive given that it was a pre-emptive strike and they had the best weapons and training American money could buy. They were also a unified front whearas the Arab forces barely coordinated.
 

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You typed this with an erection didn't you, just picturing all those dead A-Rabs getting disintegrated by badass Israel.

Anyway, don't actually think it's that impressive given that it was a pre-emptive strike and they had the best weapons and training American money could buy. They were also a unified front whearas the Arab forces barely coordinated.
The proximate outcome of the Arab humiliation was the decision by OPEC to place a strangle-hold on the US and western economies through the oil embargo of 1973. A huge move, the consequences of which are still with us.
 

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You typed this with an erection didn't you, just picturing all those dead A-Rabs getting disintegrated by badass Israel.

Anyway, don't actually think it's that impressive given that it was a pre-emptive strike and they had the best weapons and training American money could buy. They were also a unified front whearas the Arab forces barely coordinated.
How can one single country be a 'Front'?

It was, on the one hand, Israel versus, on the other - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq. With further support from various other Arab regimes.

The relative strengths of Israel and the Arab forces are enumerated here.
 

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Firstly, the term Six Day War is a slight misnomer since the first acts of aggression were on May 22nd 1967 when Nasser, the Egyptian dictator put in place a blockade of the southern coast of Israel, the port of Eilat, the Straits of Tiran and the Gulf of Aqaba (1). This was a very significant action since Eilat was and is strategically very important and the Israelis had stated repeatedly in the 10 years before 1967 that closing this international waterway to Israeli shipping would be a casus belli (2). This was something the Egyptians had promised not to do in 1957. (3)


http://www.politics.ie/forum/history/245035-fact-based-look-six-day-war.html
 

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You typed this with an erection didn't you, just picturing all those dead A-Rabs getting disintegrated by badass Israel.

Anyway, don't actually think it's that impressive given that it was a pre-emptive strike and they had the best weapons and training American money could buy. They were also a unified front whearas the Arab forces barely coordinated.
Its all the 1 to me

I'm neutral on this

IIRC the Israelis had much more eclectic mixture of equipment back then, British, French and ex US WWII vintage stuff

The Egyptians had most Russian and some British

The Syrians Soviet block stuff

The Jordanians British stuff

Now seriously grow up a bit will you.....:roll:
 

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The proximate outcome of the Arab humiliation was the decision by OPEC to place a strangle-hold on the US and western economies through the oil embargo of 1973. A huge move, the consequences of which are still with us.
Yes - and strangled the Irish economy to boot

1st time since WWII that events elsewhere in the World hit us hard....
 

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5 June 1967: Israel attacks Egypt and the Six Day War begins - 50 years ago today

In one of the most stunning and successful campaigns of Modern Times the tiny State of Israel attacked firstly Egypt, then Jordan and lastly Syria and crushed them, seizing vast swathes of territory and triggering a massive Refugeee Crises that destabilised neighbouring States

But the cost was high as while initially Israel had the support of the Western Powers it lost huge ground elsewhere esp with the Soviet Union and its satellites and also in Africa

Also while still militarily impregnable to been overrun it can still never relax its guard

The shadow of 1967 is still with us today

- as the streets of London have just shown us

- once the Jihadi is out of the bottle

- its not so easy to get him back in again........

Linking the Six Day War to today's Jihadi is drivel...........
 

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Hapless Egyptian soldier lies dead in the Sinai - Russian supplied T34/85 lies abandoned behind him

Though the taste of defeat was a bitter pill to swallow the Egyptian Armed Forces reformed and put in a far better performance in the 'Ramadan War' of 1973
 

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It's hard to square Israeli claims about Egyptian intent with the fact that 80% of the Egyptian air Force was grounded.
 
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It's hard to square Israeli claims about Egyptian intent with the fact that 80% of the Egyptian air Force was grounded.
The strike was pre-emptive. The IAF's primary objective was to take out Tupolev bombers.
 


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