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A new superhero! Man outsources his own job.


Mr. Bumble

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A man in America outsourced his job. Man outsources own job to China - The Irish Times - Thu, Jan 17, 2013 Described as an inoffensive person in his 40s, the kind of person "you wouldn't look twice at in an elevator", Bob, who was on a six figure salary as a software developer, outsourced his work to a company in China for a fifth of his salary allowing him to surf the web all day (he might even be a poster on P.ie...). The quality of the work was such that for many quarters he was consistently appraised as the best developer in the company.

What does this say about the future of the West's economy? Does it tell us anything we don't know already? Is it a portent of how much our living standards will fall in the future?
 

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That's class. Ultimate karma would be now if the company hired the Chinese worker for the full money and fired your man.
 

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That's class. Ultimate karma would be now if the company hired the Chinese worker for the full money and fired your man.

Well, he "no longer works for the company" so he's probably been fired. He might be a good man to employ if you were looking for someone with innovative ideas.
 

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A man in America outsourced his job. Man outsources own job to China - The Irish Times - Thu, Jan 17, 2013 Described as an inoffensive person in his 40s, the kind of person "you wouldn't look twice at in an elevator", Bob, who was on a six figure salary as a software developer, outsourced his work to a company in China for a fifth of his salary allowing him to surf the web all day (he might even be a poster on P.ie...). The quality of the work was such that for many quarters he was consistently appraised as the best developer in the company.

What does this say about the future of the West's economy? Does it tell us anything we don't know already? Is it a portent of how much our living standards will fall in the future?
It shows the market is such a powerful force that benefits all. One can see why the company didn't like it, but consider:

The company still benfitted - the employee's (apparent) productivity appears to be among the highest in the company - so profits go up for shareholders.

The employee benefitted - he was paid for managing the process and the work done and finding the arbitrage opportunity.

The Chinese employees benefitted - getting paid employment

The Chinese shareholders benefitted - there were earnings generated.


It really was win win win win. But that said I would have fired his arse as well.
 

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A man in America outsourced his job. Man outsources own job to China - The Irish Times - Thu, Jan 17, 2013 Described as an inoffensive person in his 40s, the kind of person "you wouldn't look twice at in an elevator", Bob, who was on a six figure salary as a software developer, outsourced his work to a company in China for a fifth of his salary allowing him to surf the web all day (he might even be a poster on P.ie...). The quality of the work was such that for many quarters he was consistently appraised as the best developer in the company.

What does this say about the future of the West's economy? Does it tell us anything we don't know already? Is it a portent of how much our living standards will fall in the future?
Outsourcing your job to Asia is an old idea. Tim Ferris floated it about five years ago in his 'The four hour work week'.
 

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That's class. Ultimate karma would be now if the company hired the Chinese worker for the full money and fired your man.
Can you imagine the chaos here in PIE if the blueshirts realise they can outsource their shills
 

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It shows the market is such a powerful force that benefits all. One can see why the company didn't like it, but consider:

The company still benfitted - the employees productivity apears to be among the highest in the company - so profits go up for shareholders.

The employee benefitted - he was paid for managing the process and the work done and finding the arbitrage opportunity.

The Chinese employees beneftited - getting paid employment

The Chinese shareholders benefitted - there were earning generated.


It really was win win win win. But that said I would have fired his arse as well.
Well it's win win win win until the Chinese company tenders directly for the work that the American company is doing. Then it's win win for the customer and the Chinese company but lose lose for the American company and the employee
 

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India, China, South Americans and some African nations have hundreds of millions of young people who are rapidly closing the gap in education with their Western equivalents.
Expect colonialism and imperialism in reverse in the 21st century.

In the 19th China had contempt for Western barbarian upstarts who flooded their country with cheap opium and fought a war before losing control of its most important ports. India fell to the British when rival rulers sought British military know how and soon found later found themselves subjects of Victoria.

The Europeans used navigation devices devised by Muslims, gunpowder invented by Chinese and mathematics from India to conquer the world.

The developing countries are stealing our ideas and using them back on us.

The West has to discover the work ethic or it is doomed.
 

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How long will it take the company he worked for to put two and two together and outsource their whole operation to China?

As countries like China and India move up the value chain it won't be just workers in low end manufacturing that find their jobs outsourced but a whole range of highly skilled, well educated and well paid professionals with years of experience. Anything that can be is produced on computers and transmitted on the web can now be outsourced - engineering, design, programing, architecture, accounting, the list is nearly endless.
 

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The West has to discover the work ethic or it is doomed.
Work ethic? It has never been about work ethic - just about costs of labour. Although I suppose you do get a better work ethic from employees in the Third and Second World when you've virtually zero workers rights and can sack people at the drop of a hat.
 

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Probably got fired for showing up management to be wasters as much as anything else.
Yeah management were made to look fools by this guy - why hadn't they outsourced the whole company already? The owners/shareholders must be livid.
 

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Outsourcing has its own problems as the contractor will frequently be working on multiple projects, lack in-depth knowledge of the organisation they work for and has no real incentive to react to a crisis in a timely manner. It can cost more in the long run when you need to get something done properly and quickly as you don’t have any real leverage to apply to the contractor. You get what you pay for.
 

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All the service sector FDI that we are praising to the hilt will eventually migrate as well including the likes of Google, Facebook etc. Outsource the labour to cheaper locations and book the profits in Ireland.
 

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Outsourcing has its own problems as the contractor will frequently be working on multiple projects, lack in-depth knowledge of the organisation they work for and has no real incentive to react to a crisis in a timely manner. It can cost more in the long run when you need to get something done properly and quickly as you don’t have any real leverage to apply to the contractor. You get what you pay for.
Yeah that's what they said about light and heavy manufacturing as well. Didn't stop most of those industries moving or outsourcing their main production in the end.
 

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Just to verify I am not that bob, I appreciate the similarity are striking, but as one who programming skills extend to basic, remember that......
 

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Well it's win win win win until the Chinese company tenders directly for the work that the American company is doing. Then it's win win for the customer and the Chinese company but lose lose for the American company and the employee
It's amazing that anyone in the developed world has a job today, let alone have a much higher standard of living than 100years ago isn't it?
 

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How long will it take the company he worked for to put two and two together and outsource their whole operation to China?

As countries like China and India move up the value chain it won't be just workers in low end manufacturing that find their jobs outsourced but a whole range of highly skilled, well educated and well paid professionals with years of experience. Anything that can be is produced on computers and transmitted on the web can now be outsourced - engineering, design, programing, architecture, accounting, the list is nearly endless.
What about regulation, compliance and responsibility. Not even taking in the different laws in different regions.
Remember when IT guys in India were selling peoples credit card numbers that rang their banks support line after it was outsourced. This was not illegal in India at the time, no one looked into protecting their customers.
 
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