A night of music and musings, celebrating the October Revolution.

Kommunist

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The Communist Party of Ireland invites all interested people to celebrate and commemorate the 100th Centenary of the October Revolution. We will be singing, telling tales, musings and poems.
 


flavirostris

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Celebrate Communism? No thanks
 

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To be honest, the only to celebrate with Communism is the music & those amazing Soviet era posters.

The rest of it was brutal, cruel and deceitful.

And that was the realistic version of Communism.

The Trots were absurd, and completely dishonest in addition. And they had no music and only one poster -Che Guevara.
 

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It's not really a century of struggle though is it? I mean...you could argue it was 75 years of struggle but then 1991 came along and the hammer and sickle finally fell apart, its fallow ideology of a super state finally collapsing under its own weight. The clock pretty much stops when one of the participants is dead you know?

But even then, the struggle didn't really last 75 years did it? It lasted maaaaaybe 25 until after the war. And then the struggle was for the millions upon millions of people who died horribly under the communist regime. Although if the people are the state and the state is communist, then I guess you could say it was a communist struggle.
 

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Its not wise to be celebrating an ideology which oppressed and killed in its millions its not acceptable to celebrate nazism so it shouldnt be acceptable to celebrate communism either which was just as horrific in fact anything short of democracy should never be glorified, totalitarianism in all its forms have been a cancer on this planet.
 

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It was more of a coup than a revolution. The February Revolution was an actual revolution.
 

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Mr K

Why do you want to 'celebrate' a political system

- that denied Democracy to its people?

Since 1991 the Communists have not been able to convince a majority of people to vote for them.

Why is that do you think?
 

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By 7.10pm the lights will go out and the music will stop.
Further investigation will conclude nobody had the money to pay for the venue.
14 attendees will be shot when they complain.
But the CP of I will record all failures as the work of capitalist pigs.
 

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Communism is still in power in the PRoC and Vietnam.

There was an attempt at a Third Revolution. It was led (like the previous two) by the Baltic Fleet Sailors.

It was brutally put down by Trotsky.

It was the Kronstadt Rebellion. If it succeded the Communist project might have been less brutal, less controlling and less repressive.
 

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You do wonder what would have happened though if Rocky hadn't defeated communism back in the 80s.
 

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It's not really a century of struggle though is it? I mean...you could argue it was 75 years of struggle but then 1991 came along and the hammer and sickle finally fell apart, its fallow ideology of a super state finally collapsing under its own weight. The clock pretty much stops when one of the participants is dead you know?

But even then, the struggle didn't really last 75 years did it? It lasted maaaaaybe 25 until after the war. And then the struggle was for the millions upon millions of people who died horribly under the communist regime. Although if the people are the state and the state is communist, then I guess you could say it was a communist struggle.
If you take the regular, white, western centric view sure. Given that revolutions inspired and supported by the USSR continued for the entirety of the 20th century in many low wage countries there's definitely been plenty of struggle, a lot of which, still guided by Marxism Leninism is on-going today.
 

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I will celebrate it's ability to kill religion and tribalism and in killing religion and tribalism killing a potentially eternal source of conflict and antagonism.

The likes of Nigeria could really get a lot out of a century or so of totalitarian communism. For a start they would get a proper infrastructure and the endless war between Muslim and Christian would end. Life would be hard but life there is very hard now for the majority - under the klepto-capitalist system. Would also do away with many tribalistic views and patriarchal abuses that they must endure.
 

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Another one? The last party was crap. We ran out of booze and couldn't afford to keep the disco lights on.
 

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I don't see it as something to celebrate except that it meant Russia/USSR was able to get out of the disaster of WW1. The USSR had some positive acheivements including more gender equality. To this day Russia has one of the highest %s of female representation on company boards - and that probably stems from ideas begun during the revolution (though the Church is pushing back with laws making domestic violence legal).

Against that - the Soviets started a Civil War by closing down the Constituent Assembly because they only won 25% of the votes in the elections. 5 million died in that war. Then there was the collective farming and artificial famines including the Holodomor in Ukraine, the Russification policies in the 1930s onwards (ironically following 10 years of minority-language promotion known as "Korenization"), the blowing up of churches, the execution of clergy, the suppression of freedom of religion, the criminalisation of homosexuals from 1953, the abuse of psychiatric institutions for political persecution under the pretext of fictional mental illnesses like "sluggish schizophrenia" etc.
 


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