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razorblade

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Unfortunately they have. There is a good argument that the West peaked in the 13 th century and it has been all down hill since than.
It hasn't but if we keep importing Muslims from the middle east with that kind of medieval mindset it soon will be.
 

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It hasn't but if we keep importing Muslims from the middle east with that kind of medieval mindset it soon will be.
Sunni Radicals have more in common with the Radical Calvinists of the 17 th century in the Early Modern Period than they do with anything from the Christian Middle Ages.
 

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Or the Mother and Baby Gulags in Ireland petunia
As bad as Ireland was it cant compare to what goes on in the Islamic world, i dont think we've ever stoned women to death or executed gays, and Ireland has progressed as a nation, the islamic world is still in the stone age.
 

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As bad as Ireland was it cant compare to what goes on in the Islamic world, i dont think we've ever stoned women to death or executed gays, and Ireland has progressed as a nation, the islamic world is still in the stone age.
What is the Islamic world?

Define it.
 

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What are our beliefs and customs?
Democratic liberal values like freedom of speech, freedom of any believe religious or non religious, women being treated as equals to men, which sadly isnt the case in much of the Islamic world, the right to be gay etc, try to be openly gay in saudi arabia and see what happens, these western democratic, liberal values which we need to protect at all costs.
 

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Democratic liberal values like freedom of speech, freedom of any believe religious or non religious, women being treated as equals to men, which sadly isnt the case in much of the Islamic world, the right to be gay etc, try to be openly gay in saudi arabia and see what happens, these western democratic, liberal values which we need to protect at all costs.
So you are a feminist and believe in gay rights.

That is western values, then?
 

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What is its rightful meaning?
Just that men and women are equal, which was what traditional feminism was, now its been hijacked by the extreme elements and descented into general man hating, and appeasment to Islamic oppression of women, which they refuse to speak up against.
 

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Just that men and women are equal, which was what traditional feminism was, now its been hijacked by the extreme elements and descented into general man hating, and appeasment to Islamic oppression of women, which they refuse to speak up against.
So your problem with Muslim countries is that the west doesn't follow traditional feminism?
 

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