A Tribute to the Magnificence of the Soviet Union

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I begin with the splendor of the Bolshoi. Sparticus by Adam Khachaturian, choreographed by Yuri Grigorovich. It was ballets like these that made Soviet ballet the high point of the art, which has fallen into a sad state of disrepair since the tragic loss to humanity of the USSR:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxAIGDgbP84]YouTube - Spartacus Act II - Spartacus and Phrygia (Bolshoi)[/ame]


Next to Sergei Eisenstein's great masterpiece, Ivan the Terrible, with music by Sergei Prokofiev:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y17JfkAsXvg&feature=related]YouTube - IVAN THE TERRIBLE - 1944 - Sergei Eisenstein[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKNoqlIP5Dg&feature=related]YouTube - The dance of the oprichniks[/ame]


And yet another unspeakably brilliant masterpiece from Eisenstein and Prokofiev, Alexander Nevsky, made with Comrade Stalin's unfailing guidance:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXr0m7SaGvs]YouTube - Battle on the Ice[/ame]


Next, the greatest film director of all time, Andrei Tarkovski. Where to begin. Every minute of his film is trancendent brilliance. Almost randomly, I choose two clips from his 1979 masterpiece, Stalker:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXyKlqS07tc&feature=related]YouTube - Stalker with the dog[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNiVFCWMrqI&feature=fvw]YouTube - Stalker-Final Scene[/ame]


This post could go on forever. In its short history, the Soviet Union brought art and culture to unheard of heights. After it fall, the world fell into a dark age of crass blandness, in which it still ails. But, le ball críoch a chur ar an bpost seo, we cannot forget the wonderful heights to which Soviet athletes soared. None more than the gymnasts. Here is the unsurpassable Olga Corbut from the 1972 Munich Olympics:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOmFgBAdIA]YouTube - Olga Korbut, 1972 Uneven Bars !!!![/ame]
 
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There has been alot of great art in the world since the fall of the soviet union. For example,this song by Eminem.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelHwf8o7_U]YouTube - Eminem - Love The Way You Lie ft. Rihanna[/ame]

Music is art which medium is sound.
 

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There has been alot of great art in the world since the fall of the soviet union. For example,this song by Eminem.
Ya, that's about the height of it. Musak for money.
 

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Ya, that's about the height of it. Musak for money.
I'm no left winger but I have to admit that the insatiable desire for money in general absolutely destroys art... one thing that a profit motive destroys...

The ratio of hollow formulaic rubbish in the cinema and in music these days is unbelievably high. I doubt we'll ever see the likes of the Beatles again, Christopher Nolan seems to be the only director able to make a semi original high grossing movie and professional sports is getting closer and closer to x-factor.

The problem is crap sells and the vast of majority of the populace demand crap.

Some alternative rock bands and the likes of Radiohead who are already loaded and don't need the money seem to be some of the only artists who make quality boundary pushing music that casts a wide net.
The likes of HBO provide some hope for quality television.
 

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Enemim or whatever he is called is good art? :confused::confused::confused:
In our current crassocracy, he probably does pass of art. The cretins these days would probably find the great ballets of the Bolshoi to be "boring."
 

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtjAmaG7jjA&feature=related]YouTube - Shostakovich Symphony No. 7 "Leningrad" 1st Movement part 1[/ame]

Shostakovich's Seventh symphony which rivals Beethovan's Ninth should also be here.
 

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The problem is crap sells and the vast of majority of the populace demand crap.
I really do believe that the people have been conditioned to want crap. They dont naturally want it. In my experience, if you sit someone down - even the most silly man united fan - before something beautiful, and force them to look at it for more than two minutes, they discover that they like it, and wish there was more of that in the world.
 

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Isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder? That applies to music as well. Personally I think Eminem is better then the Beatles.
Eminem is akin to a big mac.
Cheap, easy, relatively tasty, mass produced and distributed everywhere, but providing very little nourishment and everyone of them tastes the same.
 

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uFUxMwA1w]YouTube - The Soviet Story - Why killing is essential to communism[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSVs1sQaw4Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSVs1sQaw4Q[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JAiUcqy3lM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JAiUcqy3lM[/ame]
 

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I really do believe that the people have been conditioned to want crap. They dont naturally want it. In my experience, if you sit someone down - even the most silly man united fan - before something beautiful, and force them to look at it for more than two minutes, they discover that they like it, and wish there was more of that in the world.
That may be true Cael, my sister is a perfect example. I'll have a great mp3 playing in the car and will ask her what she thinks of it, and she'll agree that it's excellent... I'll offer to lend her the CD if she wants,

Of course I'll walk past my living room later in the day and The hills, the X-factor, Smash Hits or whatever Lowest common denominator artistic equivalent of gruel will be on the Tv,

I'll despair, but eventually I realised that my efforts are futile... Most people like crap and go back to crap default very quickly.
 

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Shostakovich's Seventh symphony which rivals Beethovan's Ninth should also be here.

Of course you are right, Shostakovich was a great genius. Its good that you compare him to Beethoven. Beethoven's Fidelio is probably one of the first examples of Socialist Realism in the world. He welcomed the rise of Napoleon with his Symphany Number 3, Eroica, when it seemed that Napoleon would bring the great hope of the French Revolution to all of Europe.
 

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So Stalin was to blame for natural disasters???

LOL....And at this stage boring.

The reality is that the USSR delivered a previously undreamt of quality to millions of people across the world...Do you not understand its role in ending the brutal European colonial rule over so much of the world? Or the fact that without it we would probablt be living under the Third Reich or something?
 

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It is fair to say that popular culture is in a bad way but I don't think it has anything to do with money. It's largely because writers, songwriters, film-makers etc. have nothing to say.

There are a set of acceptable opinions and nobody dares diverge too much from them. Everybody from Take That to the most obscure indie band delivers the same content-free bland rubbish.


Eminem like Beck and many more are talented but uninteresting.
 

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That may be true Cael, my sister is a perfect example. I'll have a great mp3 playing in the car and will ask her what she thinks of it, and she'll agree that it's excellent... I'll offer to lend her the CD if she wants,

Of course I'll walk past my living room later in the day and The hills, the X-factor, Smash Hits or whatever Lowest common denominator artistic equivalent of gruel will be on the Tv,

I'll despair, but eventually I realised that my efforts are futile... Most people like crap and go back to crap default very quickly.

A chara, I can't accept that. Your sister has a soul too. She proves that by responding to beautiful music. But, she is a normal human being too. And, its very hard for us to resist the contant and immediate sugar fix of capitalist garbage.
 

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It is fair to say that popular culture is in a bad way but I don't think it has anything to do with money. It's largely because writers, songwriters, film-makers etc. have nothing to say.

There are a set of acceptable opinions and nobody dares diverge too much from them. Everybody from Take That to the most obscure indie band delivers the same content-free bland rubbish.


Eminem like Beck and many more are talented but uninteresting.
You are contradicting yourself there, a chara. At first you say that artists today have nothing to say, but, then you admit that if they said anything, they would be victimised by the corporate authorities. Does that not really indicate that there are lots of artists with lots to say - but they are shut out of the system - or bribed into producing blandness?
 


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