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A very bad week or two for democracy


Disillusioned democrat

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In the past few weeks we've seen our democracy take another backwards leap.

Varadkar warns Dáil committee of tribunal and inquiry costs

Taxpayers facing €100m bill to cover costs of outstanding inquiries | Irish Examiner


Former Rehab CEO Angela Kerins wins Supreme Court appeal over treatment by PAC - Independent.ie

Basically accountability is a think of the past.

TDs have hijacked the PAC to made headlines at the expense of real accountability and the Taoiseach sneers about the cost of tribunals when peoples ask for an inquiry.

Meanwhile the "opposition" are hiding behind Brexit to avoid having to face an electorate that still vaguely remembers being pushed over a cliff by FF and are struggling to decide which kind of corrupt incompetence they want to finish off the job.

It seems that there's no way to actually hold this government to account now. The high court is so far removed from reality that they see Angela Kerins as a victim while RTE still lets Frank "Panama" Flannery pollute the airwaves, and Varadkar uses the cost of pointless tribunals to bash anyone who looks for any form of inquiry.

Basically we're in Neverland.
 

Lumpy Talbot

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Fine Gael seemed to lose interest in their manifesto promise back in 2011 of expanding the remit of PAC. Probably because names associated with Fine Gael started floating to the surface of the mud-pool.
 

Jack O Neill

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Fine Gael seemed to lose interest in their manifesto promise back in 2011 of expanding the remit of PAC. Probably because names associated with Fine Gael started floating to the surface of the mud-pool.
Surely by now everyone knows what Fine Gael and Fianna Fail are and what to expect
 

sic transit

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Fine Gael seemed to lose interest in their manifesto promise back in 2011 of expanding the remit of PAC. Probably because names associated with Fine Gael started floating to the surface of the mud-pool.
Inadvertently the behaviour of PAC shows it to have been a foolish promise. Far too much political grandstanding out of it these days and notions that they are above democracy.
 

sic transit

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In the past few weeks we've seen our democracy take another backwards leap.

Varadkar warns Dáil committee of tribunal and inquiry costs

Taxpayers facing €100m bill to cover costs of outstanding inquiries | Irish Examiner


Former Rehab CEO Angela Kerins wins Supreme Court appeal over treatment by PAC - Independent.ie

Basically accountability is a think of the past.

TDs have hijacked the PAC to made headlines at the expense of real accountability and the Taoiseach sneers about the cost of tribunals when peoples ask for an inquiry.

Meanwhile the "opposition" are hiding behind Brexit to avoid having to face an electorate that still vaguely remembers being pushed over a cliff by FF and are struggling to decide which kind of corrupt incompetence they want to finish off the job.

It seems that there's no way to actually hold this government to account now. The high court is so far removed from reality that they see Angela Kerins as a victim while RTE still lets Frank "Panama" Flannery pollute the airwaves, and Varadkar uses the cost of pointless tribunals to bash anyone who looks for any form of inquiry.

Basically we're in Neverland.
The electorate don't want to be "faced" until it's actually needed. Next Dail will be similar in make-up anyway and imagining it otherwise is living in Neverland.
 

Lumpy Talbot

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Inadvertently the behaviour of PAC shows it to have been a foolish promise. Far too much political grandstanding out of it these days and notions that they are above democracy.
My point would be that Fine Gael rowed back on a manifesto undertaking and their failure to bring forward reforms is what resulted in leaving Kerins a legal opening.
 

lostexpectation

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Fine Gael seemed to lose interest in their manifesto promise back in 2011 of expanding the remit of PAC. Probably because names associated with Fine Gael started floating to the surface of the mud-pool.
only mention of pac is actually relate to empowering other committees
Public Service Delivery Reports: Performance and progress will be published in new, audited annual Public Service Delivery Reports. Oireachtas Committees will expose failure to hit milestones and targets. In this sense, every Committee will take on new powers similar to those currently wielded by the Public Accounts Committee to hold Ministers and public servants to account for value for money in their relevant areas. This will then feed into the Oireachtas’ consideration of the next Budget.
http://michaelpidgeon.com/manifestos/docs/fg/Fine Gael GE 2011.pdf
 
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