A West Brit Taoiseach for a West Brit Party. Fine Gael Must Be Crushed.

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This Country was partitioned when Fine Gael decided to surrender the Six Countries to the British. Fine Gael abandoned their country men and women to the mercy of Unionist supremacy. Fine Gael stood idly by while their fellow Irish men and women were crushed by Orange boots. FG blood runs thick with the traitor gene and now we have a Taoiseach who embraces the Brits first, Irish people last ideology of FG.

Leo Varadkar has publicly stated that he will reject a United Ireland if a majority vote in the Six Counties in favour of unity does not have reasonable Unionist support.

How DARE Varadkar deny Irish people their rights.

How DARE Varadkar renege on the Good Friday Agreement.

How DARE Varadkar surrender to the British a second time without consulting the Irish people.

FG need to be crushed. The Partition Party needs to be annihilated at the ballot box. FG need to be sent to the back benches in perpetuity just as they were in 1932 when Fianna Fail swept to victory.

Footnote: I don’t want to hear excuses that FG were not Cumann na nGaedheal. Different name same party. Different name same people. Different name same policies.

Mr Varadkar said it was impossible to achieve Irish unity “by just putting the shoe on the other foot, by saying, ‘We’re the majority now, or we’re about to be the majority, soon, so tough. You need to accept that we’re going to pull the plug out of the socket in London and plug it into Dublin’. That seems to be where they’re going.”

He said there was a need for “reasonable cross-community support” comparable to that achieved in the referendum in the North on the Belfast Agreement, which won by 71.1 per cent “and thereabouts a majority in both communities…I don’t want to say majority support from both sides – that may never be possible – but to have reasonable cross-community support.”

FF and SF trying to push unification on North - Varadkar
 


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If they are a west brit party why would they be crushed by having a west brit leader?
People getting silly about this, so he s a Thatcherite, he is very far from being able to do what he wants politically and he has shown 0% ambition to do anything other than mouth platitudes, talk a good game about dept he doesn't run, evade responsibility in ones he does run and give lots of soft soap and soft focus interviews to an adoring (though fup knows why) media.
This might well be the height of his ambitions, to be Taoiseach and then move onto a lucrative career on the speaking circuit, he already said he wants to retire by 50.
 

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If they are a west brit party why would they be crushed by having a west brit leader?
People getting silly about this, so he s a Thatcherite, he is very far from being able to do what he wants politically and he has shown 0% ambition to do anything other than mouth platitudes, talk a good game about dept he doesn't run, evade responsibility in ones he does run and give lots of soft soap and soft focus interviews to an adoring (though fup knows why) media.
This might well be the height of his ambitions, to be Taoiseach and then move onto a lucrative career on the speaking circuit, he already said he wants to retire by 50.
FG have a Brits first policy. FG have supported the British position in NI since Garret Fitzgerald gained influence in the party. Varadkar is cut from the same cloth.

I will applaud abandoning negative claims on North
 

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For there to be a Border Poll it must be called by the Secretary of State in the North

- a British Government appointee

The 1998 Act of parliament covering the implementation of the Anglo Irish Agreement states in Schedule 1, Paragraph 2

[..] the Secretary of State shall exercise the power under paragraph 1 if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland.

The paragraph reads plainly enough; if the Secretary of State thinks that a majority wish to have a united Ireland, he is required to call a border poll to confirm this.
https://sluggerotoole.com/2017/02/26/a-border-poll-can-be-held-at-any-time/

Basically it is entirely at the discretion of the British Government when and how a Border Poll would be called.

I think it is fair to say the British would do everything in their Power to 'dissuade' enough voters from taking such a drastic step.

It's not like they don't have form here.

So Leo's musings on the subject will be neither here nor there

And I think its fair to say his Heart would not just be in it to pursue the matter any further...
 

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For there to be a Border Poll it must be called by the Secretary of State in the North

- a British Government appointee

The 1998 Act of parliament covering the implementation of the Anglo Irish Agreement states in Schedule 1, Paragraph 2

[..] the Secretary of State shall exercise the power under paragraph 1 if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland.

The paragraph reads plainly enough; if the Secretary of State thinks that a majority wish to have a united Ireland, he is required to call a border poll to confirm this.
https://sluggerotoole.com/2017/02/26/a-border-poll-can-be-held-at-any-time/

Basically it is entirely at the discretion of the British Government when and how a Border Poll would be called.

I think it is fair to say the British would do everything in their Power to 'dissuade' enough voters from taking such a drastic step.

It's not like they don't have form here.

So Leo's musings on the subject will be neither here nor there

And I think its fair to say his Heart would not just be in it to pursue the matter any further...
A border poll will come about when a majority of MLAs in the Assembly vote on a resolution to have a border poll. The Assembly will soon be controlled by SF so a border poll is likely in the near future. The Secretary of State will have no choice as the GFA is an internationally recognised agreement. Britain will have to honour its obligations.

Note that the Government of Ireland Act 1920 makes no provision for a border poll. Under the GoI there was no statutory framework for unification with the South. The British could have ignored public opinion in NI even if 99% of its population wanted unification.

Furthermore my reading of the GoI is that Britain would have imposed direct rule on the South if the Southern Irish Parliament has insisted on neutrality during WW2. Remember that under the GoI, the police and the army remained under the control of the British and there were no provisions for the creation of an Irish army with which the South could defend itself.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1920/67/pdfs/ukpga_19200067_en.pdf
 

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All he brings to the table is his homosexuality.
 

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The utter ignorance of history displayed by the OP is phenomenal. And the nonsense it recounts is commonly held enough to be considered a reflection on a gaping hole in the Irish education system.

Though the liberal use of the term "West Brit" also says all one really needs to know about same poster.
 
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And so, minocracy comes to Ireland.
 

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The utter ignorance of history displayed by the OP is phenomenal. And the nonsense it recounts is commonly held enough to be considered a reflection on a gaping hole in the Irish education system.

Though the liberal use of the term "West Brit" also says all one really needs to know about same poster.
Some people cannot handle the truth.
 

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The utter ignorance of history displayed by the OP is phenomenal. And the nonsense it recounts is commonly held enough to be considered a reflection on a gaping hole in the Irish education system.

Though the liberal use of the term "West Brit" also says all one really needs to know about same poster.
It is a valid viewpoint whether you like it or not . There is and always have been a"West Brit /Unionist/pro British element within Irish society especially in south Dublin . Vadarkar has shown himself to be very much of this section of our society . It is not good for the country or indeed the Fine Gael party to have such a person dancing on the graves of people who fought to free this country from its oppressor .
 

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A border poll will come about when a majority of MLAs in the Assembly vote on a resolution to have a border poll. The Assembly will soon be controlled by SF so a border poll is likely in the near future. The Secretary of State will have no choice as the GFA is an internationally recognised agreement. Britain will have to honour its obligations.

Note that the Government of Ireland Act 1920 makes no provision for a border poll. Under the GoI there was no statutory framework for unification with the South. The British could have ignored public opinion in NI even if 99% of its population wanted unification.

Furthermore my reading of the GoI is that Britain would have imposed direct rule on the South if the Southern Irish Parliament has insisted on neutrality during WW2. Remember that under the GoI, the police and the army remained under the control of the British and there were no provisions for the creation of an Irish army with which the South could defend itself.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1920/67/pdfs/ukpga_19200067_en.pdf
There is no assembly.
 

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Didn't the GFA give up our claim to the Six Counties and that was fully supported by FF SF and FG, and the vast majority of the people.
 

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The utter ignorance of history displayed by the OP is phenomenal. And the nonsense it recounts is commonly held enough to be considered a reflection on a gaping hole in the Irish education system.

Though the liberal use of the term "West Brit" also says all one really needs to know about same poster.
It's such a quaint old term isn't it. Applying it to the son of an immigrant from India is amusing. Shows the limited vocabulary and thought processes at work.
 

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It's such a quaint old term isn't it. Applying it to the son of an immigrant from India is amusing. Shows the limited vocabulary and thought processes at work.
There is a similar mindset in India even now after all the massive success they have had. See V.S. Naipaul for a good example of Indian cultural cringe towards the English. Entirely possible that LV is just as affected by post-colonial mentality as someone with 100% Irish parentage could be.
Post colonial mindset is an actual thing.
 

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There is a similar mindset in India even now after all the massive success they have had. See V.S. Naipaul for a good example of Indian cultural cringe towards the English. Entirely possible that LV is just as affected by post-colonial mentality as someone with 100% Irish parentage could be.
Post colonial mindset is an actual thing.
You could of course call it, a Post slavery mindset is an actual thing. Hardly surprising considering the damage done over century's by those colonial masters .
 

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This Country was partitioned when Fine Gael decided to surrender the Six Countries to the British. Fine Gael abandoned their country men and women to the mercy of Unionist supremacy. Fine Gael stood idly by while their fellow Irish men and women were crushed by Orange boots. FG blood runs thick with the traitor gene and now we have a Taoiseach who embraces the Brits first, Irish people last ideology of FG.

Leo Varadkar has publicly stated that he will reject a United Ireland if a majority vote in the Six Counties in favour of unity does not have reasonable Unionist support.

How DARE Varadkar deny Irish people their rights.

How DARE Varadkar renege on the Good Friday Agreement.

How DARE Varadkar surrender to the British a second time without consulting the Irish people.

FG need to be crushed. The Partition Party needs to be annihilated at the ballot box. FG need to be sent to the back benches in perpetuity just as they were in 1932 when Fianna Fail swept to victory.

Footnote: I don’t want to hear excuses that FG were not Cumann na nGaedheal. Different name same party. Different name same people. Different name same policies.

Mr Varadkar said it was impossible to achieve Irish unity “by just putting the shoe on the other foot, by saying, ‘We’re the majority now, or we’re about to be the majority, soon, so tough. You need to accept that we’re going to pull the plug out of the socket in London and plug it into Dublin’. That seems to be where they’re going.”

He said there was a need for “reasonable cross-community support” comparable to that achieved in the referendum in the North on the Belfast Agreement, which won by 71.1 per cent “and thereabouts a majority in both communities…I don’t want to say majority support from both sides – that may never be possible – but to have reasonable cross-community support.”

FF and SF trying to push unification on North - Varadkar
Lamest. OP. Ever.

God love you.
 

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It's such a quaint old term isn't it. Applying it to the son of an immigrant from India is amusing. Shows the limited vocabulary and thought processes at work.
OK then , he's a West Briton , happy now .
 


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