Abolish Sligo Borough Council and Save Breast Cancer Services?



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Abolish Sligo borough council and scrap the breast cancer service. The country is broke and can no longer afford layers of local govt.
Sligo is loosing cancer services for another reason, it is not big enough to be a centre of excellence.

Not an either or question. Both must go
 

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Abolish Sligo borough council and scrap the breast cancer service. The country is broke and can no longer afford layers of local govt.
Sligo is loosing cancer services for another reason, it is not big enough to be a centre of excellence.

Not an either or question. Both must go
Sadly, this is probably true.
 

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The cost of the State having to provide transport to those who have to travel to Dublin or Galway also needs to be considered. I have no figures for it but I imagine it is by no means cheap.

Also, this isn't about making Sligo a centre of excellence which would be a stupid thing to do. Ireland is too small for another one.
 

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not just sligo borough council , abolish all borough councils and all county council and replace with regional ones eg connaught , munster , etc , when i see some of the gombeen councilors getting 40k+ expenses for been an idiot makes me sick
 

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Thats a great idea.. get rid of them all.... and I see where Healy -Rae is paying back the phone money..Maybe Veronica Cawley will pay back the peoples money she spent on giving The Nigerian con woman Izheaha a civic reception
 

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Thats a great idea.. get rid of them all.... and I see where Healy -Rae is paying back the phone money..Maybe Veronica Cawley will pay back the peoples money she spent on giving The Nigerian con woman Izheaha a civic reception
guy3232,I can see where you are coming from,but,I have ti disagree.Creating one council to run the Town and County would I believe,be an attack on democracy.Historically Sligo has had a Mayor and Borough Corporation for centuries,it enhances the stature and importance of the town,from a cultural,business and social prospective.After the last local elections in 2009,there was for the first time ever a majority of broad left Councillors elected.The Labour Party not for the first time sold out,and went into a cosy arrangement with the right wing FF and FG parties to share out the spoils.Traditionally the rural areas of the county have been politically backward since the foundation of the State,voting consistently for gombeen Blueshirts and FFer's.What ever hope of ever gaining a left wing majority on the Corpo,with the mindset that exists in the county,we would be condemned to a future dominated by narrow right wing political philosophy as expounded by Tony the Bridge and John the Promise.
 

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Considering that Limerick City Council is to be merged with Limerick County I think this is coming down the road. And no harm! Currently is it 8 of the Borough sit on the Council so its pointless. Also County Council had taken over responsibility of the roads throughout the county including Sligo Town.

As regards the 2.5 million for restoration of services. The simple answer, if the government had the will to restore them they would regardless of money. I know every penny helps but 2.5 million is pittance compared to the billions we need!
 

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guy3232,I can see where you are coming from,but,I have ti disagree.Creating one council to run the Town and County would I believe,be an attack on democracy.Historically Sligo has had a Mayor and Borough Corporation for centuries,it enhances the stature and importance of the town,from a cultural,business and social prospective.After the last local elections in 2009,there was for the first time ever a majority of broad left Councillors elected.The Labour Party not for the first time sold out,and went into a cosy arrangement with the right wing FF and FG parties to share out the spoils.Traditionally the rural areas of the county have been politically backward since the foundation of the State,voting consistently for gombeen Blueshirts and FFer's.What ever hope of ever gaining a left wing majority on the Corpo,with the mindset that exists in the county,we would be condemned to a future dominated by narrow right wing political philosophy as expounded by Tony the Bridge and John the Promise.
Ned Ned... use your head.. the more councils they are. the more "pigs sucking at the sow s teat of the public purse.... They are all the same... look at Greece just now the " socialists" voting to keep their privelagies.. So they screw the workers... The left in this country is the same. Look at wee michleen the galway "red" one of the largest claimers of expenses when he was a td... and now he wants the aras... 300,ooo plus on top of his pensions...jesus i could go on... Its all about to collapse. after Greece today...
 

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Ned Ned... use your head.. the more councils they are. the more "pigs sucking at the sow s teat of the public purse.... They are all the same... look at Greece just now the " socialists" voting to keep their privelagies.. So they screw the workers... The left in this country is the same. Look at wee michleen the galway "red" one of the largest claimers of expenses when he was a td... and now he wants the aras... 300,ooo plus on top of his pensions...jesus i could go on... Its all about to collapse. after Greece today...
Guy3232,Essentially we have not enough democracy at a local level in this country.Currently the County Managers have too much power,as an example look at the antics of our manager and his record of promoting the "Private Sector".Please guy3232 give me some credit as regards the left in this country,do you take me for a complete fool,I and I repeat the social democrats of the Labour Party should not be confused with genuine Socialists like myself who believe in a 32 County Workers Republic, as envisaged by the great martyred patriot James Connolly.
 

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sorry ned id never discredit you.I know your beliefs.....but look what happens when they all get elected the greed takes over...Joan Collins from the United Left Alliance, also defended hiring her partner Dermot Connolly as a part-time parliamentary assistant, and said he was the best person for the job. .......same old same old
 

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Bread and Roses

sorry ned id never discredit you.I know your beliefs.....but look what happens when they all get elected the greed takes over...Joan Collins from the United Left Alliance, also defended hiring her partner Dermot Connolly as a part-time parliamentary assistant, and said he was the best person for the job. .......same old same old
They are all not the same,I have the highest respect and regard for the Dail deputies of the ULA and also TDs like Thomas Pringle and Ming Flanagan.They and their counterparts in SF draw down the average industrial wage to live on,can you imagine McLoughlin or Perry doing so:D.As regards Joan Collins employing her partner I wont even try to explain as I dont know the reasons.However I was impressed with Joans pre election performance outside the Dail when she interrupted Bertie.
 

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Why does everyone want to close down local democracy in order to save money? Not paying the bastards in Artie Cox €57 million to oversee legal services would treat a hell of a lot of cancer patients. Why not start there first?
 

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We cant abolish the council.....we must consider the effect on our elected reps if they were prevented from CLAIMING their hard earned wages and expenses,turkeys dont vote for xmas:shock2:
 

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Sligo Borough Council should be abolished, because it is the right thing to do. Twelve salaried councillors, plus generous expense accounts, highly-paid permanent staff, prestige offices and everything that goes with it is simply daft for 18,000 people. 18,000 people would barely count as a village in most countries.

Even if we had infinite funds (and god knows we don't) it is inevitable that, when you are drawing from such a small pool of talent, the quality of the decisions will be very poor.

Breast cancer services should not be available in every village either, because cancer is a hugely complex disease, but the battle against it is being won. It is being won because highly-specialised teams focus on just one type of, say, breast cancer, and learn everything in every medical paper and conference about that type of breast cancer. Survival rates are shooting up around the world as a result.

Such specialist teams require large catchment areas to generate enough cases of their particular type of cancer. Small local general hospitals suit local élites very well, but they are a disaster for survival rates. If your loved one was ill, would you prefer them to travel a long distance to get the best care, or to die locally?
 

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Sligo Borough Council should be abolished, because it is the right thing to do. Twelve salaried councillors, plus generous expense accounts, highly-paid permanent staff, prestige offices and everything that goes with it is simply daft for 18,000 people. 18,000 people would barely count as a village in most countries.

Even if we had infinite funds (and god knows we don't) it is inevitable that, when you are drawing from such a small pool of talent, the quality of the decisions will be very poor.

Breast cancer services should not be available in every village either, because cancer is a hugely complex disease, but the battle against it is being won. It is being won because highly-specialised teams focus on just one type of, say, breast cancer, and learn everything in every medical paper and conference about that type of breast cancer. Survival rates are shooting up around the world as a result.

Such specialist teams require large catchment areas to generate enough cases of their particular type of cancer. Small local general hospitals suit local élites very well, but they are a disaster for survival rates. If your loved one was ill, would you prefer them to travel a long distance to get the best care, or to die locally?
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But whatabout the History, the cultural links, the commercial benefits, the prestige, even the Mayoral chain and most importantly, the money that would be lost to those esteemed members of Sligo BC. As samestory says; Turkeys don't vote for Christmas..

But don't worry, the IMF will implement real cost/benefit analysis implemention strategies. They are running the country now.
 

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Sligo residents should be allowed to fund this if they like. They should be presented with the evidence about centres of excellence, and then they should be allowed to vote on a local tax increase to fund a cancer centre that isn't part of the national plan, if they so choose.
 

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The shortfall in HSE this year is predicted at €100 million if the rest of the year is in line with budget.

The cutbacks will hit a lot of patients.

When you consider Anglo and its developers buddys got a bail out of €29,000 million it puts it into perspective.

100 v 29,000

this years deficit x 290 years
 

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Sligo residents should be allowed to fund this if they like. They should be presented with the evidence about centres of excellence, and then they should be allowed to vote on a local tax increase to fund a cancer centre that isn't part of the national plan, if they so choose.
They dont want a centre of excellence, they want oncology after care restored so patients do not have to travel up and down to Galway for chemo. Most sane health services in other countries provide chemo in smaller regional centres which compliment the larger centres of excellence.
 

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However I was impressed with Joans pre election performance outside the Dail when she interrupted Bertie.
Rubbish, Bertie was being interviewed and she ambushed it masquerading as an ordinary citizen, not someone who just conveniently happened to be standing in the imminent election. Another stunt from the loony left of the ULA.

Traditionally the rural areas of the county have been politically backward since the foundation of the State,voting consistently for gombeen Blueshirts and FFer's.What ever hope of ever gaining a left wing majority on the Corpo,with the mindset that exists in the county,we would be condemned to a future dominated by narrow right wing political philosophy as expounded by Tony the Bridge and John the Promise.
Ah yes, if you don't vote for the left you are backward, that's dripping with arrogance. FF and FG are hardly perfect options but give me them anyway over the delusion of Bree et al. And the great Declan himself had no problem voting for and FF and FG candidates for Taoiseach too. That said Colreavy is a useful opposition TD in fairness.
 


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