Adams needs to be a TD

topcat4

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Adams needs to run an be elected in the south, Louth would be the ideal constituency, by all accounts Arthur Morgan is not going forward, and the councillor in waiting, Thomas Sharkey is hardly going to add a new dynamic to Sinn Fein. Adams needs to put his reputation on the line and go for broke in 2012, sitting up in a regional parliament in Belfast is not where the leader of Sinn Fein should be.
The sycophants around him may not be up for it though, people like Jim Gibney and his ilk.
 


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He doesn't need to elected in the Republic.
 

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Adams needs to run an be elected in the south, Louth would be the ideal constituency, by all accounts Arthur Morgan is not going forward, and the councillor in waiting, Thomas Sharkey is hardly going to add a new dynamic to Sinn Fein. Adams needs to put his reputation on the line and go for broke in 2012, sitting up in a regional parliament in Belfast is not where the leader of Sinn Fein should be.
The sycophants around him may not be up for it though, people like Jim Gibney and his ilk.
And what exactly has he done for the people of Louth. Nothing. He shouldn't and wouldn't get elected anywhere in the South, I'm sure he's happy with his cosy position in the North anyway. God help him if he was in the Dáil and subject to the type of criticism Southern leaders face rather than the protective bubble he is afforded currently in the name of the 'Peace Process'. Adams would add nothing to SF in the South anyway, where the economy is the main issue, an arena where he is less than impressive. What SF need is an end to opportunism, trying to ride two horses politically in the South and in the North and the development of capable spokespeople. People like Morgan just really don't cut the mustard.
 

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And what exactly has he done for the people of Louth. Nothing. He shouldn't and wouldn't get elected anywhere in the South, I'm sure he's happy with his cosy position in the North anyway. God help him if he was in the Dáil and subject to the type of criticism Southern leaders face rather than the protective bubble he is afforded currently in the name of the 'Peace Process'. Adams would add nothing to SF in the South anyway, where the economy is the main issue, an arena where he is less than impressive. What SF need is an end to opportunism, trying to ride two horses politically in the South and in the North and the development of capable spokespeople. People like Morgan just really don't cut the mustard.
Wow, have you a problem with SF or what??? My point is that Sinn Fein's current strategy re-enforces partition. There was a time not too long ago when 6 county MP's were supposed to be given speaking rights in the Dail. This now seems to be completely off the agenda, Sinn Fein need their leader to be elected to the main parliament on the island to drive on the United Ireland project.
 

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And what exactly has he done for the people of Louth. Nothing. He shouldn't and wouldn't get elected anywhere in the South, I'm sure he's happy with his cosy position in the North anyway. God help him if he was in the Dáil and subject to the type of criticism Southern leaders face rather than the protective bubble he is afforded currently in the name of the 'Peace Process'. Adams would add nothing to SF in the South anyway, where the economy is the main issue, an arena where he is less than impressive. What SF need is an end to opportunism, trying to ride two horses politically in the South and in the North and the development of capable spokespeople. People like Morgan just really don't cut the mustard.
Arthur Morgan is a good spokesperson and has faithfully represented the people of Louth.
 
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Adams needs to run an be elected in the south, Louth would be the ideal constituency, by all accounts Arthur Morgan is not going forward, and the councillor in waiting, Thomas Sharkey is hardly going to add a new dynamic to Sinn Fein. Adams needs to put his reputation on the line and go for broke in 2012, sitting up in a regional parliament in Belfast is not where the leader of Sinn Fein should be.
The sycophants around him may not be up for it though, people like Jim Gibney and his ilk.
Seriously what good would it do. He'd be regarded as a blow-in candidate in Louth.
 

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Wow, have you a problem with SF or what??? My point is that Sinn Fein's current strategy re-enforces partition. There was a time not too long ago when 6 county MP's were supposed to be given speaking rights in the Dail. This now seems to be completely off the agenda, Sinn Fein need their leader to be elected to the main parliament on the island to drive on the United Ireland project.
Under the GFA it is in the Six Counties not the Twenty Six Counties that have to be persuaded first and foremost of the merits of a UI.
 
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Wow, have you a problem with SF or what??? My point is that Sinn Fein's current strategy re-enforces partition. There was a time not too long ago when 6 county MP's were supposed to be given speaking rights in the Dail. This now seems to be completely off the agenda, Sinn Fein need their leader to be elected to the main parliament on the island to drive on the United Ireland project.
Blame the blueshirts and the stickies for that.
 

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Under the GFA it is in the Six Counties that have to be persuaded first and foremost of the merits of a UI so best for Gerry to remain working there.
Topcat how happy would the people of Belfast and Louth be to know their representative was only giving them 50%? What % increase do you think Adams in Louth would give SF in the Republic? Would it damage them in the North? Would you whine if he was getting an MP, MLA and TD's salary?
 

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It is quite confusing having two posters using the words RepublicanSocialist in their names!
 

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perhaps dsw would be a more likely fit!........

crowe is on a train to nowhere, he's a good councillor, end of, just like his geographic opposition......

although, for 2011/2012 my pound is still on mlmd.....
 

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Seriously what good would it do. He'd be regarded as a blow-in candidate in Louth.
That’s very parochial, Louth is one of the only constituency's where the republican vote is strong enough to do this. I.E. they could be convinced to vote for Adams to further the republican project.
 
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That’s very parochial, Louth is one of the only constituency's where the republican vote is strong enough to do this. I.E. they could be convinced to vote for Adams to further the republican project.
Firstly would you have give up his West Belfast seat then? Or would you let him keep both.

Secondly I'm a firm believer in running candidates who are locals in the election. What you're proposing doesnt really work in the south.
 

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Topcat how happy would the people of Belfast and Louth be to know their representative was only giving them 50%? What % increase do you think Adams in Louth would give SF in the Republic? Would it damage them in the North? Would you whine if he was getting an MP, MLA and TD's salary?
Well he doesn't sit in Westminister so thats not a problem, as regards the boost it would give Louth or the south, I believe it would put the republican agenda back on track. SF have no real leadership in the south and I believe this would remedy that.
 

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Would he give up his West Belfast seat then? Or would he keep both.
It is not his style to represent two places. He represents West Belfast.

I am sure he would agree that NEW politicians should be allowed to come through rather than a person at the top hogging positions.
 

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That’s very parochial, Louth is one of the only constituency's where the republican vote is strong enough to do this. I.E. they could be convinced to vote for Adams to further the republican project.
Sorry, just looking at this from a purely labour point of view, but that would leave the door open for labour to take a seat. There was an explosion in the labour vote in Drogheda at the locals, and FG look on course to take 2, so that could potentially be catastrophic for SF. Run Sharkey if ye want a seat at all lads. The only constituency this might work in would be Cavan Monaghan, but Ó Caoláin isn't retiring is he?
 


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