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Afghan mess gets worse as Karzai orders US special forces out of Province nr Kabul


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BBC News - Karzai orders US special forces out of Afghan province

This bloody endgame is getting worse. For Karzai he is in a cleft stick. Those who put him in power have failed to win popular support.

His office accuses Special Forces in Wardak of torture and murdering innocent people. They have been asked to leave. But will they?

The Americans are seeking clarification...

The Al Jazeera story is here:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2013/02/2013224145944907284.html?utm_content=automate&utm_campaign=Trial6&utm_source=NewSocialFlow&utm_term=plustweets&utm_medium=MasterAccount

"At a press conference in the Afghan capital on Sunday, Aimal Faizi, presidential spokesman, said US special forces were responsible for furthering "insecurity and instability" [in] Maidan Wardak. In today's [weekly] national security council meeting, Afghan President Hamid Karzai ordered the ministry of defence to kick out the US special forces from Wardak ... within two weeks," Faizi said. He said "misconduct" by people linked to the US special forces in Wardak included the beheading of a student and the capture of nine missing locals.

"All the Afghan national security forces are duty bound to protect the life and property of people in Maidan Wardak province by effectively stopping and bringing to justice any groups that enter peoples’ homes in the name of special force and who engage in annoying, harassing and murdering innocent people."

From the Afghan National Security Council comes this: "it became clear that armed individuals named as US special force stationed in Wardak province engage in harassing, annoying, torturing and even murdering innocent people".

The statement points to two recent examples, the disapperance of nine people "in an operation by this suspicious force" and the disappearance of a student that officials say was found two days later with his throat cut under a bridge.

"Such actions have caused local public resentment and hatred."

As they well might.
 
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Ireland has soldiers in Kabul under ISAF control. This is the ISAF response as reported by Al Jazeera:

The International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, told Al Jazeera's Jennifer Glasse that they are "aware of the comments made by the spokesman in the press conference".

Saying that they take "all allegations of misconduct seriously", ISAF said they are engaging with the Afghans on this issue.
 

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"Faizi said "misconduct" by people linked to the US special forces in Wardak included the beheading of a student and the capture of nine missing locals."

"A statement issued by the national security council said "it became clear that armed individuals named as US special forces stationed in Wardak province engage in harassing, annoying, torturing and even murdering innocent people".

Read the full article at:

Karzai expels US forces from Afghan province - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English

Dirty tactics again, no doubt It was planned for the Taliban to be blamed for this. Even that dog Karzai cant keep closing his eyes to these rats deceitful, murderous attacks.
 

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Karzai is a spent force once the West pulls out their combat troops

Saigon Mark II beckons here

It's only a matter of time....
 

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BBC News - Karzai orders US special forces out of Afghan province

This bloody endgame is getting worse. For Karzai he is in a cleft stick. Those who put him in power have failed to win popular support.

His office accuses Special Forces in Wardak of torture and murdering innocent people. They have been asked to leave. But will they?

The Americans are seeking clarification...

The Al Jazeera story is here:

Karzai expels US forces from Afghan province - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English

"At a press conference in the Afghan capital on Sunday, Aimal Faizi, presidential spokesman, said US special forces were responsible for furthering "insecurity and instability" [in] Maidan Wardak. In today's [weekly] national security council meeting, Afghan President Hamid Karzai ordered the ministry of defence to kick out the US special forces from Wardak ... within two weeks," Faizi said. He said "misconduct" by people linked to the US special forces in Wardak included the beheading of a student and the capture of nine missing locals.

"All the Afghan national security forces are duty bound to protect the life and property of people in Maidan Wardak province by effectively stopping and bringing to justice any groups that enter peoples’ homes in the name of special force and who engage in annoying, harassing and murdering innocent people."

From the Afghan National Security Council comes this: "it became clear that armed individuals named as US special force stationed in Wardak province engage in harassing, annoying, torturing and even murdering innocent people".

The statement points to two recent examples, the disapperance of nine people "in an operation by this suspicious force" and the disappearance of a student that officials say was found two days later with his throat cut under a bridge.

"Such actions have caused local public resentment and hatred."

As they well might.
Wrong, it accuses Afghans. From your link.....

The decision was being taken due to allegations of disappearances and torture by Afghans considered to be part of US special forces, said a spokesman for Hamid Karzai.
BBC News - Karzai orders US special forces out of Afghan province

From the Al Jazzera link....

Faizi said "misconduct" by people linked to the US special forces in Wardak included the beheading of a student and the capture of nine missing locals.
 

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Karzai is a spent force once the West pulls out their combat troops

Saigon Mark II beckons here

It's only a matter of time....
Will the Irish make it to the chopper?
 

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@Ulster-Lad

See paragraph eight of the BBC story.
 

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As I said on the other thread that got zoo'ed 'linked too' is a handy term that allows 'maneuvering' when embarrassing situations like this arise.

Plausible deniability.

Anyway Karzi is definitely no longer on the CIA payroll then?
 

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Like par 8 it quotes what his office says.

Your point?
"A recent example in the province is an incident in which nine people were disappeared in an operation by this suspicious force and in a separate incident a student was taken away at night from his home, whose tortured body with throat cut was found two days later under a bridge.
Lacking some facts there now are we?
 

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As I said on the other thread that got zoo'ed 'linked too' is a handy term that allows 'maneuvering' when embarrassing situations like this arise.

Plausible deniability.

Anyway Karzi is definitely no longer on the CIA payroll then?
Oh he still is, make no mistake about that. He was under extreme pressure for this withdrawal, the people of Wardak could tolerate US terrorism no longer. Had he not had these 'Special Forces' withdrawn it would have resulted in a provincial uprising, and with that other provinces would follow. It would have been out of the question for him to have kept them.
 

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So how long before the Yanks cut a deal with the Taliban?
Not going to happen. There will be peace when NATO withdraws all of its military forces and political stringpullers from Afghanistan, or not at all.
 

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So how long before the Yanks cut a deal with the Taliban?

They (Taliban) don't have too, thats not to say the won't but it's just a matter of waiting until the withdrawal of the majority of NATO's tropps and then they be in a more commanding bargaining position besides haven't they the majority of the country side, more or less under their control with only the large population centers remaining in the 'afgan governments' hands
 

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I thought you were more intelligent than that. My mistake.
Anyone can make a mistake, or misunderstand. You accused me of being wrong. I think that is a mistaken accusation. My post reported the Karzai claim. It is there to read. As you say there is no claim US troops were the ones in the frame. The claim is that those identified as part of their Special Forces were the perps.

No hard feelings.
 
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