After Brexit UK will exit ECHR

gleeful

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Theresa May to fight 2020 election on plans to take Britain out of European Convention on Human Rights after Brexit is completed

May wants to quit the European Convention on Human Rights and join Belarus as the only non-member. Exiting the ECHR indicates that May certainly wont be putting the UK subject to any of the court systems required for single market access (ie. the ECJ or the special court systems which arbitrate for EEA or Switzerland). Exiting the ECHR also definitively ends the Good Friday Agreement - something the Tories never liked anyway. There's a 'hard Brexit' and then there's the 'North Korea option' of total isolation.

Have the Tories lost the run of themselves?
 


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The party is divided on this question. Even some Brexiters dont support this.

I dont blame them though given how the ECHR has obstructed deportation of terrorists.
 

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Theresa May to fight 2020 election on plans to take Britain out of European Convention on Human Rights after Brexit is completed

May wants to quit the European Convention on Human Rights and join Belarus as the only non-member. Exiting the ECHR indicates that May certainly wont be putting the UK subject to any of the court systems required for single market access (ie. the ECJ or the special court systems which arbitrate for EEA or Switzerland). Exiting the ECHR also definitively ends the Good Friday Agreement - something the Tories never liked anyway. There's a 'hard Brexit' and then there's the 'North Korea option' of total isolation.

Have the Tories lost the run of themselves?
Gove wrote a paper against Good Friday Agreement.
 

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The party is divided on this question. Even some Brexiters dont support this.

I dont blame them though given how the ECHR has obstructed deportation of terrorists.
Thats a myth. The ECHR prevented the deportation of accused terrorists without evidence to countries that torture suspects. When the terrorist suspect in question was finally deported and given a fair trial he wasn't convicted because there was no evidence.
 

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Theresa May to fight 2020 election on plans to take Britain out of European Convention on Human Rights after Brexit is completed

May wants to quit the European Convention on Human Rights and join Belarus as the only non-member. Exiting the ECHR indicates that May certainly wont be putting the UK subject to any of the court systems required for single market access (ie. the ECJ or the special court systems which arbitrate for EEA or Switzerland). Exiting the ECHR also definitively ends the Good Friday Agreement - something the Tories never liked anyway. There's a 'hard Brexit' and then there's the 'North Korea option' of total isolation.

Have the Tories lost the run of themselves?
The irony is going to be that many of those who voted to 'take back control' are still going to be crapped all over by those who actually 'take back control' on behalf of voters... (ie a load of gobsh!tes in Westminster)...

In time various demographics in the UK may well come to realise that the EU protected them from the kind of gobsh!tes they voted to 'take back control' on their behalf from the EU...

This Brexit thing... once it is recognised to have failed to deliver for many of those who voted for it will have repurcussions that go on for decades...
 

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In fairness the Judges in Europe have not done the ECHR any service with some of the decisions they made. For example a number of years ago a number of Afghans hijacked a plane and landed it in the UK, claimed asylum, but Britain wanted them out but the ECHR blocked it ergo giving plane hijackings an incentive.
 

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With any luck they will not only exit it but they will also send in the RAF to wipe the building off the map.
 

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If the UK wants to assume full responsibility for Norn Iron then good luck to them.
They can have it, lock stock & two smoking AK's.
 
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In fairness the Judges in Europe have not done the ECHR any service with some of the decisions they made. For example a number of years ago a number of Afghans hijacked a plane and landed it in the UK, claimed asylum, but Britain wanted them out but the ECHR blocked it ergo giving plane hijackings an incentive.
Link to that?
 

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The GFA has already been renogotiated and has morphed into the St Andrews Agreement.
 

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Theresa May was never a fan of human rights, but there are enough Tories who aren't completely evil to block any attempts to leave the ECHR.
 

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If the UK wants to assume full responsibility for Norn Iron then good luck to them.
They can have it, lock stock & two smoking AK's.
They can like hell,within 10 years there will be a Irish nationalist majority (already is,in large areas of it,incl Belfast),the Brits can go back to whatever holes are left in the UK by then.
 

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Neither does the British state, but the ECHR provides better protection of human rights than Theresa May would, given her record in this area.
No it doesn't-
The ECHR puts the human rights of Islamists on bail above the rights of those in direct danger of his potential actions.
The ECHR would rather a potential suicide bomber be allowed to stay in Europe to protect his "Human rights"......even if it means the deaths of native Europeans.
 

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My objection is that suspected Islamist extremists who are recruiting for Al Qaeda linked groups should be expected to wear an ankle tag if on bail.
Crazy. I know.
The tag wasn't a condition of bail. It was a condition of a TPIM notice, which was due to expire in a couple of months' time, regardless of the outcome of the case.

Nor was he in any fit state to do recruiting for anyone - he was seriously mentally ill, and his condition was being exacerbated by the requirement to wear the tag (among other aspects of the TPIM).

Do you believe that suspected extremists (I take it the "Islamic" part is irrelevant here) should have their human rights protected?
 


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