Ahern and the $45,000 Question: Part II

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Ahern and the $45,000 Question: Part II

Ahern's fundraiser, Mr Des Richardson, received $10,000 in cash in 1994

The Irish Daily Mail reports today that Bertie Ahern's personal fundraiser, Des Richardson, was handed over $10,000 in cash from a property developer in Manchester in May 1994. Mr Richardson returned to Ireland with the $10,000 in cash.

A lodgement of cIRP£28,000 in December 1994 to Mr Ahern's bank account in all probability was the consequence of a lodgement of USD$45,000 in cash, less IRP£5 commission.

Mr Ahern vehemently denies receiving Dollars (albeit the evidence suggests otherwise).

The Mail also reports that the Tribunal is investigating a Manchester Bank Account.
 


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What "new" stories will he spin to explain this away.

It is embarassing to have a person like Ahern as taoiseach.
 
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I raised the issue of the Casino in a Des Richardson thread yesterday. No one replied, probably few care. Seemingly Lawlor had to be paid, or was offered by Richardson, 100K I think, to act as a 'consultant' (that word again) on the Casino project. I asked what was known about the business links between Dunlop, Lawlor, and Richardson, and if Ahern knew of the involvement with Dunlop of Richardson in the Tara development which Ahern gave designation to (he claims he didn't know they were involved). Tim Collins, another friend of Ahern's worked with Lawlor, Dunlop and Ambrose Kelly on other projects. Ahern's 'circle' are involved with the same corrupt names again and again...
 
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Jaysus, Bertie must have had some expensive habit like coke at the time to spend all that ... and must still be if he need €310k a year!
 

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Daily Mail is not online. Isn't the threshold for customs declaration at the airport $10,000?
 

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the-analyst2007 said:
Ahern and the $45,000 Question: Part II

Ahern's fundraiser, Mr Des Richardson, received $10,000 in cash in 1994

The Irish Daily Mail reports today that Bertie Ahern's personal fundraiser, Des Richardson, was handed over $10,000 in cash from a property developer in Manchester in May 1994. Mr Richardson returned to Ireland with the $10,000 in cash.

A lodgement of cIRP£28,000 in December 1994 to Mr Ahern's bank account in all probability was the consequence of a lodgement of USD$45,000 in cash, less IRP£5 commission.

Mr Ahern vehemently denies receiving Dollars (albeit the evidence suggests otherwise).

The Mail also reports that the Tribunal is investigating a Manchester Bank Account.
The evidence strongly suggests that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but not to worry he’ll be gone in three months or was that three months ago?
 

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and mugabe's refusal to step down means he's not corrupt either.
 

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toxic avenger said:
I raised the issue of the Casino in a Des Richardson thread yesterday. No one replied, probably few care. Seemingly Lawlor had to be paid, or was offered by Richardson, 100K I think, to act as a 'consultant' (that word again) on the Casino project. I asked what was known about the business links between Dunlop, Lawlor, and Richardson, and if Ahern knew of the involvement with Dunlop of Richardson in the Tara development which Ahern gave designation to (he claims he didn't know they were involved). Tim Collins, another friend of Ahern's worked with Lawlor, Dunlop and Ambrose Kelly on other projects. Ahern's 'circle' are involved with the same corrupt names again and again...
if memory serves me right there is also a Michael Wall/Manchester connection back to the casino project.
 

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tonys said:
the-analyst2007 said:
Ahern and the $45,000 Question: Part II

Ahern's fundraiser, Mr Des Richardson, received $10,000 in cash in 1994

The Irish Daily Mail reports today that Bertie Ahern's personal fundraiser, Des Richardson, was handed over $10,000 in cash from a property developer in Manchester in May 1994. Mr Richardson returned to Ireland with the $10,000 in cash.

A lodgement of cIRP£28,000 in December 1994 to Mr Ahern's bank account in all probability was the consequence of a lodgement of USD$45,000 in cash, less IRP£5 commission.

Mr Ahern vehemently denies receiving Dollars (albeit the evidence suggests otherwise).

The Mail also reports that the Tribunal is investigating a Manchester Bank Account.
The evidence strongly suggests that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but not to worry he’ll be gone in three months or was that three months ago?
I was in Dublin airport today and couldn't find the metro station so confidently promised in 2002 for 2007, but not to worry it will be there in another 5 years as promised this year.

The evidence that keeps on accumulating is that BA served a very worthwhile apprenticeship to CJH.
 

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Des Richardson told the Tribunal that Bertie’s solicitor Gerry Brennan advised him of Bertie’s outstanding legal bills and the pair of them got together, without Bertie’s knowledge, to organise the “dig-out” function.

Richardson only discovered that Bertie had already settled his legal bills, using an AIB loan, when he delivered the cash & cheques collected at the dig-out.

I’m puzzled that Gerry Brennan would be so much in the dark regarding the status of Bertie’s legal bills.

If it was money owed to Brennan himself, presumably he’d know if his own account had been settled.
If a barrister had been employed, presumably he’d been briefed by Brennan and would present his bill via the briefing solicitor?
If it was legal costs incurred by Miriam, the ex-wife, again I presume that such accounts would have been presented via Brennan.

Sadly, Gerry Brennan is not available to provide his own account of what exactly he understood to be going on.
 

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"Sadly, Gerry Brennan is not available to provide his own account of what exactly he understood to be going on "

Something in common with the late Des Traynor ?
 
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Today's evidence...

Fianna Fail paid Des Richardson through a company called Willdover Ltd. This company didn't have accounts, directors, etc, but was a cover for payments to Richardson personally. Richardson used the money in the Willdover account as his own personal money.

On 22nd Dec 1993 he received a payment of c.£18K from the Reynolds/Ahern joint FF Account. He then used £2.5K of this money to pay Ahern in the mythical 'dig-out.' Ahern therefore was signing cheques to pay FF money to a non-existant company which then paid some of the money directly back to Ahern. £382K went through Willdover's accounts, £137K of which came from Fianna Fail, the rest Richardson claims was an inter-company loan from another of his 'companies' Berraway Ltd. The spectre raised here is that donations to FF would end up in personal accounts of politicians, whether intended or not by the donor. The question is thus, how much money did FF raise in the 80s and 90s, and how is this money accounted for...

Richardson denies that this operation was money-laundering.
 
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The report that the Tribunal is investigating a Bank Account in Manchester is also unsurprising.

Gda Fallon's story as told in 2000 may now be backed up by further evidence.

Also, the net is closing in on the $45,000 payment. In all likelyhood the Tribunal of Inquiry already has proof of this payment above what is known publicly (that is that the sum could not have been the sterling amount as claimed by Ahern and was probably - according to an AIB FX expert - USD$45,000 IN CASH).
 
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Oh, and the payment to Ahern was covered by the words 'Kilmainham Function' written by Richardson, meaning the money was covered by Richardson as having been paid towards the O'Donavan Rossa Cumann annual shindig, which he admitted was false. He was asked why, if he wanted to protect Ahern from prying eyes as he claims, could he not have just claimed it was a cash payment, or made the cheque out to cash, and he couldn't explain.
 

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toxic avenger said:
Today's evidence...

Fianna Fail paid Des Richardson through a company called Willdover Ltd. This company didn't have accounts, directors, etc, but was a cover for payments to Richardson personally. Richardson used the money in the Willdover account as his own personal money.

On 22nd Dec 1993 he received a payment of c.£18K from the Reynolds/Ahern joint FF Account. He then used £2.5K of this money to pay Ahern in the mythical 'dig-out.' Ahern therefore was signing cheques to pay FF money to a non-existant company which then paid some of the money directly back to Ahern. £382K went through Willdover's accounts, £137K of which came from Fianna Fail, the rest Richardson claims was an inter-company loan from another of his 'companies' Berraway Ltd. The spectre raised here is that donations to FF would end up in personal accounts of politicians, whether intended or not by the donor. The question is thus, how much money did FF raise in the 80s and 90s, and how is this money accounted for...

Richardson denies that this operation was money-laundering.
Actually Willdover ltd had 2 directors and 2 shareholders, the same individuals. They are names I dont recognise. It could not have been incorporated otherwise, however, we dont know whether they were merely incorporation agents or not. The company was incorporated on 17 February 1992 and was dissolved on 23 April 1999, presumably for non filing of accounts and annual returns. You can get copies of the documents from www.cro.ie. Not that it really matters, just saying is all.
 
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S.C. Des O'Neill also revealed that apart from the cheque made out to the Fianna Fail Cumman in Kilmainham and the Cheque from NCB payable to EuroForce Limted for a Health & Safety audit that was never carried out, the other alleged contributors to the alleged whiparound cannot provide evidence that they paid Mr Ahern IR£2,500 each.

In other words, there's zero proof of the whiparound. A **** and bull story of the highest order.

Yet RTE News report on these 'Loans' as being Gospel. So much for investigative journalism.
 

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toxic avenger said:
Today's evidence...

Fianna Fail paid Des Richardson through a company called Willdover Ltd. This company didn't have accounts, directors, etc, but was a cover for payments to Richardson personally. Richardson used the money in the Willdover account as his own personal money.

On 22nd Dec 1993 he received a payment of c.£18K from the Reynolds/Ahern joint FF Account. He then used £2.5K of this money to pay Ahern in the mythical 'dig-out.' Ahern therefore was signing cheques to pay FF money to a non-existant company which then paid some of the money directly back to Ahern. £382K went through Willdover's accounts, £137K of which came from Fianna Fail, the rest Richardson claims was an inter-company loan from another of his 'companies' Berraway Ltd. The spectre raised here is that donations to FF would end up in personal accounts of politicians, whether intended or not by the donor. The question is thus, how much money did FF raise in the 80s and 90s, and how is this money accounted for...

Richardson denies that this operation was money-laundering.
I listened to that myself on the Tribunal Report on Five Live (or whatever they call it now)

FF had to give money to Richardson.. who then immediately used part of the money to give to Ahern.. who didn't need it for the explanation he gave Richardson i.e. to pay legal bills, but instead to buy property

I wonder is it worth speculating, that Ahern was siphoning off money from FF, via Richardson

That'd really annoy the FF grassroots..
 
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Watcher said:
toxic avenger said:
Today's evidence...

Fianna Fail paid Des Richardson through a company called Willdover Ltd. This company didn't have accounts, directors, etc, but was a cover for payments to Richardson personally. Richardson used the money in the Willdover account as his own personal money.

On 22nd Dec 1993 he received a payment of c.£18K from the Reynolds/Ahern joint FF Account. He then used £2.5K of this money to pay Ahern in the mythical 'dig-out.' Ahern therefore was signing cheques to pay FF money to a non-existant company which then paid some of the money directly back to Ahern. £382K went through Willdover's accounts, £137K of which came from Fianna Fail, the rest Richardson claims was an inter-company loan from another of his 'companies' Berraway Ltd. The spectre raised here is that donations to FF would end up in personal accounts of politicians, whether intended or not by the donor. The question is thus, how much money did FF raise in the 80s and 90s, and how is this money accounted for...

Richardson denies that this operation was money-laundering.
Actually Willdover ltd had 2 directors and 2 shareholders, the same individuals. They are names I dont recognise. It could not have been incorporated otherwise, however, we dont know whether they were merely incorporation agents or not. The company was incorporated on 17 February 1992 and was dissolved on 23 April 1999, presumably for non filing of accounts and annual returns. You can get copies of the documents from www.cro.ie. Not that it really matters, just saying is all.
Sorry, it was an off-the-shelf company, illegal now, but legal then, with nominee directors and shareholders who have nothing in reality to do with the actual use of the company. Dunlop's Shefran was another example, shareholders/directors in Jersey or somewhere, no accounts etc..
 
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rockofcashel said:
toxic avenger said:
Today's evidence...

Fianna Fail paid Des Richardson through a company called Willdover Ltd. This company didn't have accounts, directors, etc, but was a cover for payments to Richardson personally. Richardson used the money in the Willdover account as his own personal money.

On 22nd Dec 1993 he received a payment of c.£18K from the Reynolds/Ahern joint FF Account. He then used £2.5K of this money to pay Ahern in the mythical 'dig-out.' Ahern therefore was signing cheques to pay FF money to a non-existant company which then paid some of the money directly back to Ahern. £382K went through Willdover's accounts, £137K of which came from Fianna Fail, the rest Richardson claims was an inter-company loan from another of his 'companies' Berraway Ltd. The spectre raised here is that donations to FF would end up in personal accounts of politicians, whether intended or not by the donor. The question is thus, how much money did FF raise in the 80s and 90s, and how is this money accounted for...

Richardson denies that this operation was money-laundering.
I listened to that myself on the Tribunal Report on Five Live (or whatever they call it now)

FF had to give money to Richardson.. who then immediately used part of the money to give to Ahern.. who didn't need it for the explanation he gave Richardson i.e. to pay legal bills, but instead to buy property

I wonder is it worth speculating, that Ahern was siphoning off money from FF, via Richardson

That'd really annoy the FF grassroots..
That is an appalling vista, to quote Lord Denning, and one we should bury our heads in the sand to avoid...
 


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