Albert Einstein on the Jewish Future

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1946, Albert Einstein to Rabbi Wise, "I am firmly convinced that a rigid demand for a 'Jewish State' will have undesirable results for us".

From "Einstein A Life", by Dennis Brian.

Einstein had deep concerns about any one group dominating Palestine. He obviously was a very humane type of man and reading his views on Zionism and the politics of the time is very enlightening indeed.
 


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1946, Albert Einstein to Rabbi Wise, "I am firmly convinced that a rigid demand for a 'Jewish State' will have undesirable results for us".

From "Einstein A Life", by Dennis Brian.

Einstein had deep concerns about any one group dominating Palestine. He obviously was a very humane type of man and reading his views on Zionism and the politics of the time is very enlightening indeed.
A link would help
 

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Hmm here Einstein is speaking outside of his area of expertise (physics). In fact his statement appears to have no factual content at all.
 

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1946, Albert Einstein to Rabbi Wise, "I am firmly convinced that a rigid demand for a 'Jewish State' will have undesirable results for us".

From "Einstein A Life", by Dennis Brian.

Einstein had deep concerns about any one group dominating Palestine. He obviously was a very humane type of man and reading his views on Zionism and the politics of the time is very enlightening indeed.
Sean O'Brian is right. Albert Einstein had no authority to on the issue of a Jewish state. How does the existence of Israel create undesirable results for the Jews?
 

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" The Zionist cause is very close to my heart…. I am very confident of the happy development of the Jewish colony and am glad that there should be a tiny speck on this earth in which the members of our tribe should not be aliens…. One can be internationally minded, without renouncing interest in one's tribal comrades."

Einstein,
October 1919.




 

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MauriceColgan said:
1946, Albert Einstein to Rabbi Wise, "I am firmly convinced that a rigid demand for a 'Jewish State' will have undesirable results for us".

From "Einstein A Life", by Dennis Brian.

Einstein had deep concerns about any one group dominating Palestine. He obviously was a very humane type of man and reading his views on Zionism and the politics of the time is very enlightening indeed.
You need to see a doctor.
 

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He wasnt wrong .
Einstein was well aware of all the machinations and workings of the Zionist movement.
Of course he wanted a Jewish homeland but was cognitive of the repercussions if it was done by force.

Any fool could see what would transpire... and unfortunately, it has with tragic consequences for the whole region..
 

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Hmm here Einstein is speaking outside of his area of expertise (physics). In fact his statement appears to have no factual content at all.
We do not connect Einstein with politics, but he was offered the Presidency of Israel after the death of the 1st President, the Zionist Chaim Weitzmann.

He expressed great joy at the foundation of Israel and was moved by the offer of the Presidency. But he was also a pacifist and a humanist so he refused the offer. The Israeli PM, David Ben Gurion, was secretly relieved.

Einstein openly worried about Jewish-Arab relations. He said that attitudes towards the Arab minority would expose the moral standards of the Jewish people. So Einstein was not a Zionist, and was torn by the sight of Palestinian refugees.

So humanitarianism was within his "area of expertise" I.E. he knew right from wrong.
 

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We do not connect Einstein with politics, but he was offered the Presidency of Israel after the death of the 1st President, the Zionist Chaim Weitzmann.

He expressed great joy at the foundation of Israel and was moved by the offer of the Presidency. But he was also a pacifist and a humanist so he refused the offer. The Israeli PM, David Ben Gurion, was secretly relieved.

Einstein openly worried about Jewish-Arab relations. He said that attitudes towards the Arab minority would expose the moral standards of the Jewish people. So Einstein was not a Zionist, and was torn by the sight of Palestinian refugees.

So humanitarianism was within his "area of expertise" I.E. he knew right from wrong.
Exactly.
 

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We do not connect Einstein with politics, but he was offered the Presidency of Israel after the death of the 1st President, the Zionist Chaim Weitzmann.

He expressed great joy at the foundation of Israel and was moved by the offer of the Presidency. But he was also a pacifist and a humanist so he refused the offer. The Israeli PM, David Ben Gurion, was secretly relieved.

Einstein openly worried about Jewish-Arab relations. He said that attitudes towards the Arab minority would expose the moral standards of the Jewish people. So Einstein was not a Zionist, and was torn by the sight of Palestinian refugees.

So humanitarianism was within his "area of expertise" I.E. he knew right from wrong.
If he supported the foundation of Israel, than he was a Zionist. A Zionist is simply someone who supported the creation of a Jewish state or today someone who supports the continuous existence of Israel as a Jewish state.
 

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If he supported the foundation of Israel, than he was a Zionist. A Zionist is simply someone who supported the creation of a Jewish state or today someone who supports the continuous existence of Israel as a Jewish state.
You mean any Jew who supported setting up the state of Israel must be a Zionist.

Since Stalin & Truman supported seeting up Israel, that hardly makes them Zionists.

Einstein had actually visited what was the British Palestine Mandate in 1923, and was attracted by the simple lives of the kibbutz-dwellers. He considered moving there, but he said "My heart said yes, my head said no."

Einstein was certainly "associated with the Zionist cause" in the words of another biographer, Walter Isaacson. He corresponded regularly with Chaim Weitzmann, but his ideas were not what you would consider Zionist. He was deeply concerned about treatment of the Arabs. He wanted an oversight body of four Jews and four Arabs to settle disputes. For him, the acid test was how well the new state co-existed with the Arabs. Einstein was apolitical and unworldly so it was too easy then and now to dismiss him as naive.
 

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Einstein was a socialist (and had significant Marxist leanings) and understood the political ramifications of forcing the establishment of a Jewish state down the throats of the Arab masses in the Middle East.
 

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Einstein was a socialist (and had significant Marxist leanings) and understood the political ramifications of forcing the establishment of a Jewish state down the throats of the Arab masses in the Middle East.
I have read a couple of biograpies of Einstein, but never saw much evidence that he had "significant Marxist leanings". He may have been "socialist" in a general humanist way, like his admiration for the kibbutzim, in his youth.

When he abandoned Germany after the rise of Hitler, he was invited to Russia as well as the USA. He told a friend (quoted in the Isaacson biography, see below):

"I am a convinced democrat. It is for this reason I do not go to Russia, though I have received many cordial invitations. My voyage to Mascow would be exploited for political gain. Now I am an adversary of Bolshevism as well as fascism. I am against all dictatorships."

During the McCarthy era in the US, he attracted suspicion because of his pacifism and internationalism, but nothing came of it. Einstein cannot be easily classified into conventional categories "Zionist", "Marxist" ... etc.

Anyone who is interested in his life and thought, which is rich and fascinating, should read one of the biographies.

Walter Isaacson, Einstein: His Life and Universe, 2007
 

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One only has to read a few Einstein biographies to understand the man was far from an uncritical supporter of a Jewish State. His own words describe best his undestanding of the Palestinian problem.

You don't have to be an Einstein to see he was right to be cautious in his support for a Jewish homeland brought about by Colonisation!
 

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I have read a couple of biograpies of Einstein, but never saw much evidence that he had "significant Marxist leanings". He may have been "socialist" in a general humanist way, like his admiration for the kibbutzim, in his youth.
Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein (written in 1949)

Why Socialism? Albert Einstein - Monthly Review

When he abandoned Germany after the rise of Hitler, he was invited to Russia as well as the USA. He told a friend (quoted in the Isaacson biography, see below):

"I am a convinced democrat. It is for this reason I do not go to Russia, though I have received many cordial invitations. My voyage to Mascow would be exploited for political gain. Now I am an adversary of Bolshevism as well as fascism. I am against all dictatorships."
Einstein was an opponent of Stalinism not Marxism - and his understanding of Stalinism developed as the years progressed.

During the McCarthy era in the US, he attracted suspicion because of his pacifism and internationalism, but nothing came of it. Einstein cannot be easily classified into conventional categories "Zionist", "Marxist" ... etc.
McCarthy attempted to move against Einstein - indeed Einstein consciously attempted to provoke McCarthy in order to discredit him - primarily because McCarthy went after some of his closest associates and Einstein knew that his own position could undermine McCarthy's witchhunt campaign. McCarthy was smart enough to realise that he was on a loser if he went after Einstein. The list of left-wing and radical organisations that Einstein was a member of would have made him a top ten target for McCarthy.

I would agree that Einstein was difficult to classify in political terms. He was a scientist and that was his almost complete focus and his politics tended to be more instinctive rather than thought out. But his scientific work was very much along the lines of and resulted from the unconscience application of Marxism.
 


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