Alleged low morale among lower ranks of Gardai down to lack of facilities caused by pay pressures on budgets?

patslatt

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Alleged low morale among lower ranks of Gardai down to lack of facilities caused by pay pressures on budgets?

Some media reports suggest that gardai in the lower ranks view top management in headquarters as distant and unresponsive to their needs and that this has lowered morale. Pay issues aside,apparently this has increased their willingness to strike.

But could it be possible that the pressure of high garda pay and pensions has starved the budgets for facilities, training and computerisation etc, making management look bad? Even in the early days of the Celtic Tiger, banger cars were in use well beyond the sell by date and the analog communications system from the 1970s was so obsolete that gardai had to use their own mobile phones for work. Similarly, in many departments of government and the education system, high pay has undermined budgets for facilities, a typical Irish public sector story.
 


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I once worked for a very wise man who commented after we sat through a happy clappy motivational meeting: "I know how to motivate you guys, I pay you extra money":lol:
 

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The Fermanagh wan can't start threads, but Pat the wum can. Continually. About the same stuff.

TROLLING.
 

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There's just a laziness about change in the top ranks of the gardai. How else do you explain we still have gardai, who have received expensive training and relatively decent salaries answering the phones? That kind of work has been transferred to much lower paid admin staff everywhere else in the developed world.
 

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There's just a laziness about change in the top ranks of the gardai. How else do you explain we still have gardai, who have received expensive training and relatively decent salaries answering the phones? That kind of work has been transferred to much lower paid admin staff everywhere else in the developed world.
CIVILIANISATION
Former Justice Minister McDowell won agreement to increase civilianisation of administration at a time when management jobs even in highly technical areas like computerisation were reserved for gardai who had come up through the ranks. In the UK constabularies, civilianisation was about half of admin jobs about five years ago and more was planned.
 

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I once worked for a very wise man who commented after we sat through a happy clappy motivational meeting: "I know how to motivate you guys, I pay you extra money":lol:
€108,000 A YEAR PEANUTS!
Average pay of all garda ranks €68,000 a year, far higher than teachers, plus actuarial cost of pension entitlements of about €40,000 a year for a total of about €108,000.
 

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If you want a real question from the deal, why will all gardai get the parade allowance, when most stations don't parade? Parade tends to be reserved for the larger urban stations.
 

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If you want a real question from the deal, why will all gardai get the parade allowance, when most stations don't parade? Parade tends to be reserved for the larger urban stations.
Apparently, all gardai will receive the rent allowance too. Successive governments have been fuppin jokes to allow this kind of crap to continue.
 

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Meanwhile the Vagina Demagogue still hasn't appointed someone to head the Dept of Justice. Vacant now for over two years.
 

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Apparently, all gardai will receive the rent allowance too. Successive governments have been fuppin jokes to allow this kind of crap to continue.
The joke is on the loons in the private sector who fund this madness or allow their government to fund it on their behalf.
 

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The poor morale among lower ranks has more to do with their lack of opportunity to twist things in whatever direction they like. They also don't like GSOC and being held to account by anyone including the Dail, Justice Minister and the media.
 

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Apparently, all gardai will receive the rent allowance too. Successive governments have been fuppin jokes to allow this kind of crap to continue.
And the rent allowance is pensionable, and will be used as part of overtime calculations (the overime alone element will cost around 6m)
 

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Apparently, all gardai will receive the rent allowance too. Successive governments have been fuppin jokes to allow this kind of crap to continue.
And those already on Garda pensions :)

My 83 year old mother will get a % of it and she had her mortgage paid off in about 1982
 

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Some media reports suggest that gardai in the lower ranks view top management in headquarters as distant and unresponsive to their needs and that this has lowered morale. Pay issues aside,apparently this has increased their willingness to strike.

But could it be possible that the pressure of high garda pay and pensions has starved the budgets for facilities, training and computerisation etc, making management look bad? Even in the early days of the Celtic Tiger, banger cars were in use well beyond the sell by date and the analog communications system from the 1970s was so obsolete that gardai had to use their own mobile phones for work. Similarly, in many departments of government and the education system, high pay has undermined budgets for facilities, a typical Irish public sector story.
" low morale " is a slogan which means

give us more money and we will feel better ( until we feel morale is low again and we need some more )
 

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Every year they will be back.

Those nasty landlords will see these pay increases and push rents further ahead.

Also those nasty developers will see more disposable income in the pockets of PS and push prices up.

Sound familiar ?
 

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And what about all the penpushers in Garda HQ who never have a problem with holidays--will they get parade and premium holiday pay?
 


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