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Alternativ für Deutschland slowly imploding

flavirostris

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Surge in applications to join SPD after youth wing calls on members to scupper coalition deal with Merkel

The spike in membership applications follows a call from the SPD’s youth wing, Jusos, for those against a renewed CDU-SPD coalition to join specifically to veto the final deal.

A narrow margin of SPD members approved an initial agreement at a party conference in Bonn on Sunday, meaning formal talks between Angela Merkel’s CDU and the left-wing SPD can now commence in earnest.

Another party referendum will determine whether the SPD should accept the final coalition deal.

Jusos sees this as its opportunity to change the direction of the SPD, and deny Angela Merkel a fourth term as Chancellor.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/909536/Angela-Merkel-Germany-grand-coalition-CDU-SPD-deal-entryism-danger
 


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AFD now ahead of SPD in poll.
That's as much to do with the spd collapsing as opposed to the AFD rising.

What a joke German left wingers must be if they think voting spd is voting socialist.

If they want to smash the system then go and vote AFD and go and vote die linke.
 

Erudite Caveman

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That's as much to do with the spd collapsing as opposed to the AFD rising.

What a joke German left wingers must be if they think voting spd is voting socialist.

If they want to smash the system then go and vote AFD and go and vote die linke.
Kinda says it all really.
 

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AFD now ahead of SPD in poll.
Dame, the poll cherry picker to beat them all.
There have been over 100 polls conducted in Germany in since the Sept 2017 election and you conveniently pick the one poll that has the AFD on it's highest rating in those 100 polls and of course the SPD on its lowest

Even if we confine it to 2018, the AfD score an average of 13.2%, barely changed from their 12.6% in the Federal Elections

You can trawl alt right sites and get tweets and messages for fellow alt righters all you like but
There is no "surge" to the AfD or far right Germany or anywhere in Western Europe
The PVV vote in Netherlands has collapsed, almost halving in less than a year and UKIP have been wiped off the face of the Earth
Ms Le Pen was trounced and her party is mired at the 20% mark (ie largely where they have been for 2 decades), and toxic beyond this.
And in good old Ireland far right parties remain the insignificant non entities they always have been

Happy days in safe and healthy Western Europe and not an AR-15 brandishing teen nutter to be seen
 

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Is Angela getting the message yet . Just another has-been hanging on for dear life........
You know she's not the leader of the SPD, she's the leader of the CDU and they have been pretty much the same in the polls since the federal election.
 

Wistrich

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now ahead of SPD in poll.
Ha RT, but INSA have consistently over estimated AfDs support and polling companies do fiddle the numbers if it will get them better coverage.

That said I welcome this poll, it comes on the day that SPD members will be getting their ballots to vote on the grand coalition, might frighten a few of them into doing the right thing and voting against the grand coalition.
 

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A new election would be fun to see what happens with the AfD, they still have a lot of MdBs who are from the Frauke Petry wing of the party and they will have to be reselected by a party now headed entirely by the Höcke/Gauland gang. Petry was also one of their only 3 directly elected candidates, who will they get to replace her? Will she run again and split the vote?
 

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The AfD is again making headlines in Germany.

Firstly its' most influential politician, Gauland made a very controversial speech in which he downplay the impact of the Third Reich on history. His remarks were so insulting that other AfD politicians felt the need to apologize on behalf of the party.


Far-right AfD split over Gauland

There was also public fury after it surfaced the rarely used first verse of the German national anthem was belted out at the AfD youth wing event where Mr Gauland spoke.

The verse, which begins Deutschland, Deutschland, über alles, or “Germany, Germany, above all” is deemed offensive because it was adopted by the Nazis.

https://theworldnews.net/gb-news/german-mp-denies-trivialising-hitler-and-the-nazis-after-comments-that-trivialised-hitler-and-the-nazis

It is going as many have expected. After the exodus of its' moderate party members, the AfD is now drifting more and more to the right. Statements and actions like this will hopefully show its' voters what kind of party they are supporting and make them reconsider. A lot of them are lost without hope, but some of them who still believe in the values of modern Germany might abondon the AfD in disgust. At the very least those actions make it easier to call out their leading politicians.
 

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The AFD has a long history of splits (including all but two of its MEPs defecting years ago). This may be no different other than the fact they have around 90 MPs.
 

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And each split drove them further to the right. They used to claim that they represented "moderate and concerned citizens" that were merely unhappy with the refugee crisis. Now this is getting more and more unbelievable. Moderate Germans do not sing Nazi songs and downplay the Third Reich.

It is all a matter of time now. Merkel will retire within the next few years and by then the refugee crisis will simply be a bad memory. Then those who voted for the AfD because they wanted Merkel gone will have to ask themselves some serious questions if they can justify their further support the AfD.
 

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The controversial first verse of the national anthem long precedes Nazi Germany.
 

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The controversial first verse of the national anthem long precedes Nazi Germany.
And like many other things that came before them, the Nazis thoroughly discredited it. Only Nazis still sing it during their meetings. There is no possible justification for this, do not bother.
 

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This is welcome. AFD forming party groups for immigrants, LGBT people and Jews. Perhaps they are modernised civic nationalists - rather than racists - after all.,

 

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And each split drove them further to the right. They used to claim that they represented "moderate and concerned citizens" that were merely unhappy with the refugee crisis. Now this is getting more and more unbelievable. Moderate Germans do not sing Nazi songs and downplay the Third Reich.

It is all a matter of time now. Merkel will retire within the next few years and by then the refugee crisis will simply be a bad memory. Then those who voted for the AfD because they wanted Merkel gone will have to ask themselves some serious questions if they can justify their further support the AfD.
How will the refugee crisis be a bad memory, because they are stopping them coming in?
 

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The AfD is again making headlines in Germany.

Firstly its' most influential politician, Gauland made a very controversial speech in which he downplay the impact of the Third Reich on history. His remarks were so insulting that other AfD politicians felt the need to apologize on behalf of the party.


Far-right AfD split over Gauland

There was also public fury after it surfaced the rarely used first verse of the German national anthem was belted out at the AfD youth wing event where Mr Gauland spoke.

The verse, which begins Deutschland, Deutschland, über alles, or “Germany, Germany, above all” is deemed offensive because it was adopted by the Nazis.

German MP denies trivialising Hitler and the Nazis, after comments that trivialised Hitler and the Nazis

It is going as many have expected. After the exodus of its' moderate party members, the AfD is now drifting more and more to the right. Statements and actions like this will hopefully show its' voters what kind of party they are supporting and make them reconsider. A lot of them are lost without hope, but some of them who still believe in the values of modern Germany might abondon the AfD in disgust. At the very least those actions make it easier to call out their leading politicians.
This is always sung at German matches or whatever, you seem to be ill-informed.
 

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