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An Taoiseach Enda Kenny should hold a referendum on Article 3 of the Constitution!


Bobcolebrooke

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An Taoiseach Enda Kenny should hold a referendum on Article 3 of the Constitution!

Article 3 of the Constitution is the one that aspires to a United Ireland by peaceful means.

In reality this is an open offer by the people of the 26 Counties, to the people of Northern to Ireland, to fund the Stg£9 billion a year deficit in running Northern Ireland currently funded by Westminster.

As the level of Social welfare benefits in the Republic is much more generous than in Northern Ireland under Sinn Féin rule, the anual cost of integrating Northern Ireland into the Republic would be much more than Stg£9 billion (€11.25 billion)

The current exchequer deficit in the Republic is about €14, billion.

Put simply the cost of a United Ireland would be an extra €2500 for every man woman and child in the Republic each year, on top of the cuts necessary to balance our books.

Do the people want that extra Austerity?

30% of our population oppose paying a property tax based on a modest €100 per household which would probably be around €30 per head.

How would our people feel about funding a bigger Republic at a cost of €2500 per head when thet shirk at paying €30 per head to support local services?

It is time we asked them!

If they want their 32 County Republic then Government should renew the campaign for a United Ireland.

If they don't want it then we should take the aspiration for a 32 County Ireland from the Constitution.

http://www.constitution.org/cons/ireland/constitution_ireland-en.htm
 


IrishWelshCelt

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Firstly it would not cost €2500 extra a year per person as a united ireland would have huge economic benefits in terms of trade, employment and foreign investment.

Secondly if you'd read the Good Friday Agreement you'd know that such a referendum would take place on the same day as a vote in the north on joining the south. A vote such as this cannot be taken independently of a vote up north and was removed from the constitution as part of the GFA.
 

Porkypie

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An Taoiseach Enda Kenny should hold a referendum on Article 3 of the Constitution!

If they want their 32 County Republic then Government should renew the campaign for a United Ireland.

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Why now,why not last week or last year? Is all the recent publicity worrying the government?
 

Bobcolebrooke

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Firstly it would not cost €2500 extra a year per person as a united ireland would have huge economic benefits in terms of trade, employment and foreign investment.

Secondly if you'd read the Good Friday Agreement you'd know that such a referendum would take place on the same day as a vote in the north on joining the south. A vote such as this cannot be taken independently of a vote up north and was removed from the constitution as part of the GFA.
We have the benefit of trade and investment already.

Would 1000,000 odd angry unionists waving Union Jacks and rioting in the streets attract more investment and tourists?
 

RahenyFG

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Put simply the cost of a United Ireland would be an extra €2500 for every man woman and child in the Republic each year, on top of the cuts necessary to balance our books.
If true Sinn Féin's claims of a single economy being better for the whole island are false.
 

Bobcolebrooke

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Firstly it would not cost €2500 extra a year per person as a united ireland would have huge economic benefits in terms of trade, employment and foreign investment.

Secondly if you'd read the Good Friday Agreement you'd know that such a referendum would take place on the same day as a vote in the north on joining the south. A vote such as this cannot be taken independently of a vote up north and was removed from the constitution as part of the GFA.
Of course we can ask the People of the 26 Counties if they still want a United Ireland?

We already asked them to pay €30 a head of a household charge. How will they react to a charge Unification charge of €2500 per head?
 

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Jesus... And people are given out about the property tax... Imagine what they would have to pay to make this happen. The policing costs alone would be massive. See the Unionist reaction to even removing the flag...
 

Eire1976

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An Taoiseach Enda Kenny should hold a referendum on Article 3 of the Constitution!

Article 3 of the Constitution is the one that aspires to a United Ireland by peaceful means.

In reality this is an open offer by the people of the 26 Counties, to the people of Northern to Ireland, to fund the Stg£9 billion a year deficit in running Northern Ireland currently funded by Westminster.

As the level of Social welfare benefits in the Republic is much more generous than in Northern Ireland under Sinn Féin rule, the anual cost of integrating Northern Ireland into the Republic would be much more than Stg£9 billion (€11.25 billion)

The current exchequer deficit in the Republic is about €14, billion.

Put simply the cost of a United Ireland would be an extra €2500 for every man woman and child in the Republic each year, on top of the cuts necessary to balance our books.

Do the people want that extra Austerity?

30% of our population oppose paying a property tax based on a modest €100 per household which would probably be around €30 per head.

How would our people feel about funding a bigger Republic at a cost of €2500 per head when thet shirk at paying €30 per head to support local services?

It is time we asked them!

If they want their 32 County Republic then Government should renew the campaign for a United Ireland.

If they don't want it then we should take the aspiration for a 32 County Ireland from the Constitution.

BUNREACHT NA hIREANN
All those benefits that they get in the six counties would be reduced or increased according to what is correct on a national budget.

How much revenue does the 6 counties generate by itself?

We have no issue borrowing 100 billion to pay for foreign banks with no benefit to Ireland. Time to do the same for unity.

Also, if it's fine for Irish people to go abroad because the government wont create quangos to keep them, then the same for the North and they can go too.
 

Eire1976

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Jesus... And people are given out about the property tax... Imagine what they would have to pay to make this happen. The policing costs alone would be massive. See the Unionist reaction to even removing the flag...
Unionists are your boss then?
 

Bobcolebrooke

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The German Unification cost a fortune. That included the benefit of bringing 17 billion new people into the German market and economy. We already have th eNorthern population in our Market!
 

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Jesus... And people are given out about the property tax... Imagine what they would have to pay to make this happen. The policing costs alone would be massive. See the Unionist reaction to even removing the flag...
Protests to democracy should not impede democracy. That is the reaction those protesting want.
 

Eire1976

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The German Unification cost a fortune. That included the benefit of bringing 17 billion new people into the German market and economy. We already have th eNorthern population in our Market!
The British and Irish government have been working diligently behind the scenes to create the situation where unity will pass by without any real turmoil. I'm sure they expect some trouble from some silly loyalist hard liners but that wont last.
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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An Taoiseach Enda Kenny should hold a referendum on Article 3 of the Constitution!

Article 3 of the Constitution is the one that aspires to a United Ireland by peaceful means.

In reality this is an open offer by the people of the 26 Counties, to the people of Northern to Ireland, to fund the Stg£9 billion a year deficit in running Northern Ireland currently funded by Westminster.

As the level of Social welfare benefits in the Republic is much more generous than in Northern Ireland under Sinn Féin rule, the anual cost of integrating Northern Ireland into the Republic would be much more than Stg£9 billion (€11.25 billion)

The current exchequer deficit in the Republic is about €14, billion.

Put simply the cost of a United Ireland would be an extra €2500 for every man woman and child in the Republic each year, on top of the cuts necessary to balance our books.

Do the people want that extra Austerity?

30% of our population oppose paying a property tax based on a modest €100 per household which would probably be around €30 per head.

How would our people feel about funding a bigger Republic at a cost of €2500 per head when thet shirk at paying €30 per head to support local services?

It is time we asked them!

If they want their 32 County Republic then Government should renew the campaign for a United Ireland.

If they don't want it then we should take the aspiration for a 32 County Ireland from the Constitution.

BUNREACHT NA hIREANN

Some things are more important than money and a United Ireland is one of those. Anyway I'm waiting for Ireland's greatest living politician Mickey Harte to give me my lead on this.
 

Bobcolebrooke

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The British and Irish government have been working diligently behind the scenes to create the situation where unity will pass by without any real turmoil. I'm sure they expect some trouble from some silly loyalist hard liners but that wont last.
Can we ask the people of the Republic if they would like to pay for it please?
 

Eire1976

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Can we ask the people of the Republic if they would like to pay for it please?
They are paying for it now. How much more are we paying for people in Monaghan, cavan and Donegal who have no proper systems in place as the border f's everything up.
 

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