Anglo Irish Quislings. The Guinness Family Gave One Million Pounds To The UVF.

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Quislings or Patriots. Did The Guinness Family Sponsor Guns For The UVF?

In 1913 the Guinness Family donated £10,000 to the UVF arms fund. That’s one million pounds in today’s money. The Larne Gun Running took place in April 1914. The questions is, did Guinness sponsor the UVF guns?


Can anyone throw some light on this episode in Irish history? Who bought the guns and how much did they pay for them?
 
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2013?.....that's some rate of inflation in 3 years.
 

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Also...
This is a 'ten'...
10

This is a 'hundred'
100
 

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£10,000 in 1913 is worth £1m today or $1.7m US dollars.

To be fair Guinness did give £160 to the famine relief fund. Well done Guinness.
 

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Anglo Irish Quislings. The Guinness Family Gave One Million Pounds To The UVF.​

The Guinness Family donated £10,000 to the UVF arms fund in 2013. That’s one million pounds in today’s money.

I don’t remember reading about any of this in the history books.​

Are there any other Anglo Irish quislings that we should be aware of?

https://passonthepint.wordpress.com/guinness-only-irish-when-it-suits-them/
The linked article doesn't appear to be signed or linked to any particular organisation or individual, can you shed any light?
 

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Your OP states 2013, and 100000.

Of the two numbers you posted, you got two wrong.

Or as you might say....you got ten percent wrong. :-D
 

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they didnt hide their bigotry in fairness, for white collar jobs in Dublin they only hired prods or ex british servicemen well into the 1950's.


also they had form

The Man Behind The Black Stuff - Herald.ie

Arthur Guinness disapproved of the United Irishmen's Rebellion of 1798. Because of this, the new brew became known as 'Guinness's black Protestant porter'. Catholics and nationalists boycotted the drink for a time, but far from damaging his trade, Guinness used the opportunity to set up a lucrative export trade with England.
 

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The linked article doesn't appear to be signed or linked to any particular organisation or individual, can you shed any light?
The interesting thing is that the Economist had a similar article which seems to have disappeared.
 

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Lets examine these quotes from Benjamin Guinness.

Benjamin also entered politics by being elected Lord Mayor of Dublin in 1851. In 1865, he was elected within the Conservative interest to the Irish Parliament. And naturally, he was a strong Unionist. Referring to nationalists, he stated: “Those wicked and worthless adventurers who would not only deprive our country of the advantages which, as a part of the British Empire, we enjoy, but who would overturn all the social arrangements of society.”

Irishmen [sic] generally abhor the projects of Fenianism; and the sentiments of sedition and rebellion which its followers inculcate have emanated from a foreign land, and been spread and nurtured in this country by emissaries, who hope by deception and by pillage to grasp from its owners their property

It would appear that Benjamin Guinness was more concerned about keeping the Anglo Irish at the top of the pile than he was about the famine victims. As for his remarks about the Fenians, 200,000 people attended the funeral of O’Donovan Rossa and six thousand people marched in the cortege. That hardly represents an abhorrence of Fenianism.

Perhaps our difficulties with the English are caused in part by the way the Anglo Irish misrepresented public opinion in this country. After all the Anglo Irish were running the show here at arms length from the British.
 

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The interesting thing is that the Economist had a similar article which seems to have disappeared.
no doubt other west brits like the guinness family were funding the uvf/lvf/ udr right up until the ceasefire in northern ireland
 

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no doubt other west brits like the guinness family were funding the uvf/lvf/ udr right up until the ceasefire in northern ireland
Yet clowns like you drank it and made them billionaires.
petunia

Oh well. Its not all bad news. It means the rest of us have to pay less tax when idiots hand over their money to the government via the pub.
 

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Plastic Paddy Blog .... look at the Home Page, all puffed up with Oirish rage :D
Are you denying that the Guinness Family gave an amount equivalent to one million pounds in todays money to the UVF in 1913. When was that Larne gun running again? Oh yes. April 1914.

Come on Cruimh. Drop the BS for a minute. Even you would have to admit that establishing a link between the Guinness Family donation and the UVF gun running would have a seismic effect on our interpretation of Irish History.
 

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Don't care..I'm not drinking Beamish for anyone!
 


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